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To: Cronos
If Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Word are as you said, “synonymous terms” then John's words could be translated,

“In the beginning the Father/Son/Holy Spirit was and the Father/Son/Holy Spirit was with Father/Son/Holy Spirit and the Father/Son/Holy Spirit was Father/Son/Holy Spirit.”

Remember...you said the terms were synonymous and that word indicates alike in meaning.

On the other hand, the Scriptures says Jesus called his father “my God” at John 20:17. Was Jesus talking about himself as “my God”? Was Jesus referring to the “Godhead..Father/Son/Holy Spirit” as “my God”?

“The only way you can reconcile those three sentences is in the Triune nature of God”.

But it cannot be reconciled with Scripture and that is the point. And saying that the Word was Father/Son/Holy Spirit cannot be found in John's words.

252 posted on 12/22/2011 5:44:06 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change; Avalon Hussar; MHGinTN; metmom
cyc You underlined, “...the Word was God”. So the Word was God the Father? or God the Son? or God the Holy Ghost? or all three? and Then the Word was “the Godhead”?

cronos: Synonymous terms - the Godhead is God the Father-Son-Holy Spirit.

cyc: If Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Word are as you said, “synoymous terms”

hold on there -- read this, I never said that the Father, Son, Holy Spirit are synonomous terms, neither did I say that any of these were synonomous terms with the Word.

Jesus Christ is the Word of God -- and as clearly stated in John 1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God.

253 posted on 12/22/2011 5:54:31 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: count-your-change; Avalon Hussar; MHGinTN; metmom
the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite.

There is One God, not three, here is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.

255 posted on 12/22/2011 5:56:44 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: count-your-change; Avalon Hussar; MHGinTN; metmom
In John it clearly states that the Word of God, Jesus Christ IS God. No doubts or anything.

To say Jesus Christ is not God cannot be reconciled with scripture -- He was either God or a demonic faker, nothing in-between.

256 posted on 12/22/2011 5:58:43 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: count-your-change; Avalon Hussar; MHGinTN; metmom

So, who do you say Jesus was if not God? who else could He be?


257 posted on 12/22/2011 6:01:19 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: count-your-change; Avalon Hussar; MHGinTN; metmom
as reference, I again point to the well written post of MHG's -- 231 The trinitarian nature of God is shown in the Bible, even in the Tanakh. Trinity IS the nature of God as we have been given to know. Even in the Old Testament/Tanakh, we do have instruction on the Three nature of God as Creator, Sustainer, and Deliverer. God Is manifested as three yet one, seen identified by 'the work He is doing'.
259 posted on 12/22/2011 6:05:47 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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