Polygamy [Everything you might want to possibly know about historical Mormon polygamy]

MormonThink.com ^ | 2008

[Colofornian]

• What most LDS have been taught in church and believe as truth
• Polygamy was illegal
• Polygamy contradicts 12th Article of Faith
• Were there more women than men?
• LDS scriptures condemn polygamy
• Polygamy was started by Joseph Smith not Brigham Young
• Joseph married other men's wives while they were still married to their husbands
• Did Joseph have sex with his wives?
• Joseph married girls as young as 14 years old
• Joseph lied about practicing polygamy
• The Church condemned polygamy when Joseph practiced it
• The Church continued to practice polygamy after 1890
• The Reed Smoot Hearings
• Quotes from the prophets
• Is polygamy a doctrine of the LDS Church?
• How many people in the Church practiced polygamy?
• Will polygamy be practiced in the next life?
• Is polygamy essential for salvation?
• Parley P. Pratt and polygamy
• Were the polygamous wives happy?
• What about the children?
• Circumstances surrounding Joseph's death
• Did Joseph say that polygamy was a mistake?
• What about the Fundamentalist Mormon Polygamists?/li>
• Does Heavenly Father practice polygamy also?
• Some Faithful LDS adopt a different view of polygamy
• Why didn't an angel come to Emma?
• Mitt Romney and Polygamy
• Polygamy stories
• Responses to these issues by the LDS church
• Ending summary by critics
• Our thoughts
• Links

[boatbums]

Reading this thread and the responses gotten back from LDS adherents really makes me wonder about how anyone in their right mind could vote for a Mormon to be the President of the U.S.. I get it that most of the 'little people' outside of the inner workings of the sect think they are just as logical and relevant as any other Christian denomination and they use the same verbiage and words as any other does as well. But someone like Mitt Romney, for example, knows all about the skeletons in the closet and they are part and parcel of the deception that has been perpetrated for over a hundred years on the innocent and honest seekers.

It would be like voting for a David Koresh or Jim Jones for high office. Does anyone honestly believe a Scientologist could be elected or an atheist? These men who make up the upper echelon of the hierarchy of the LDS religion have to be wise to the trickery and falsehoods that accompany any "official" publications as well as what they pass off as "apologetics". I've read some of them and it doesn't pass the smell test. So I will not vote for Romney or Huntsman simply because they are either too dumb to understand what they profess to be the true faith of Mormonism or they are in on the con game. Either way, they don't have what it takes to rule this country and represent our face to the rest of the world.

[bonfire]

Divied up? Do Mormon dudes draw straws? Seriously, how does this work? How do the single gals get “chosen”? How do they receive their secret name which, in my understanding, only is in marriage?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

"Divied up? Do Mormon dudes draw straws? Seriously, how does this work?
How do the single gals get “chosen”? How do they receive their secret name which,
in my understanding, only is in marriage?"

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Well, since you asked...

Once a year, over Spring Break, the Powerful Mormon Gods (who used to be paltry humans)
get together at Kolob Beach for their annual Gods at the Beach Frat Bash!

They have a contest, between (green) jello shots, navel shots, beer chugging, etc.

While there are other pressing matters, like making up new stuff for mormons back
on earth, and their annual Letter to Quakers Living on the Sun, they have a pressing
task, which brings us to the answer to your question.

Priority #1 is to divy up this years new "unsealed" goddesses. They will be
judged strictly on their ability to populate the planet of the winning
Powerful Mormon God - and to satisfy His desire for Celestial Sex.

Now, to us, this seems untowardly and rightly offends our sensibilities. To The
Powerful Mormon Gods, this is their right. They were raised for this role.
It is their rightful due.

The eligible, newly "available" goddesses are placed on a stage in white T-Shirts...

[***this section edited out to comply with the Religion Forum rules***]

Do you have any other questions?

[SENTINEL]

Jim, if I was wrong about who it was that investigated the Mormon schemer, I apologize. I recalled it being you personally, but it could have been a moderator, it was about four years ago. Basically one of them lied and said I threatened them via freepmail, and one of you investigated after telling me you'd ban me if it happened again. I told you I'd been set up and you found that I was and banned the other guy.

I think it was the guy who now runs the FRAM report.

[BlueMoose]

See number 109

[Godzilla]

I think it was the guy who now runs the FRAM report.

That would be Gregg West - formerly SPAMlds, now a pile of zotted ash.

[bonfire]

lol :) So what do they do with the poor single old ladies that aren’t furtile anymore?

What does a woman DO if their spouse didn’t get their own planet?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

"lol :) So what do they do with the poor single old ladies that aren’t furtile anymore?
"What does a woman DO if their spouse didn’t get their own planet?

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Good questions... and keep in mind that lots of what is taught and believed by mormonic peoples is not only false, it isn't in their mormonic verses.

Apparently, it "mattereth not" that you were old on this earth. Once you become a god, well, you are vigorous, virile and potent! And I suppose this is true for goddesses as well. They are well-endowed with fertility...

If you are one of the lowly mormons who didn't climb the ladder of worthiness by going on a mission, getting a temple recommend, etc. - then you will be in one of the less prestigious levels of heaven, away from God and not as high up as the Jeffersons.

It is all very sad. I've heard of mormons crying when asked, "If you were to die tonight, would you spend eternity in the presence of God? They cried because they hadn't done all the false works mormonism demands as a substitute for the simple truth of the Gospel of Grace.

[SENTINEL]

I did, Moose, see 124.

If it wasn't Jim, I was mistaken, it was another site moderator. It happened just like I said, and not just to me.

Now let me show you breakaway LDS Mormons something......Jim said it wasn't him, which means I WAS WRONG !.....Please note that I'm not going into a tirade about "quote mining" or claiming that "I said it, but it's not my doctrine"......

Don't you wish FLDS/LDS "prophet" Bringham Young would have had the same level of honor so you wouldn't have to be so secretly ashamed all the time?

[Elsie]

You have already condemned me to hell -

Sorry sweetheartt; but your own LEADER has done that.

Well; the GOD he served has...

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"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

[Elsie]

one of the members said...

I like what lds LEADERS have said:

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In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.

1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)

[Elsie]

Now, I am a Mormon and believe that Jesus Christ is my personal Savior...

You are NOT a mormon!

You NEVER post anything about MORMONism!

[Elsie]

You have made the allegation and I say prove it.

Quit wasting your time with her; as she will NEVER prove ANYthing!

She's a Satanic Accuser of the Brethen.

[svcw]

So if you are a mormon when are you going to post something about mormonISM?

[Elsie]

Did SOMEone say CORPORATION???

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Corporation of the President

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

STATE OF UTAH

COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

I, the undersigned, having been duly chosen and appointed President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in conformity with the rites, regulations and discipline of said Church, being desirous of forming a corporation for the purpose of acquiring, holding and disposing of Church or religious society property, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship, under and pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 3, Title 19, of the Compiled Laws of Utah, 1917, on "Churches and Religious Societies," and all acts amendatory thereof and supplementary thereto, for that purpose do hereby make and subscribe, in duplicate, the following

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION

First: The name of this corporation shall be the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Second: The object of this corporation shall be to acquire, hold and dispose of such real and personal property as may be conveyed to or acquired by said corporation for the benefit of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a religious society, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship. Such real and personal property may be situated, either within the State of Utah, or elsewhere, and this corporation shall have power, without any authority or authorization from the members of said Church or religious society, to grant, sell, convey, rent, mortgage, exchange, or otherwise dispose of any part or all of such property.

Third: The estimated value of the property of which I hold the legal title for the purpose aforesaid, at the time of making these Articles of Incorporation, is One Million, Five Hundred Thousand Dollars.

Fourth: The title of the person making these Articles of Incorporation is "PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS."

Fifth: The corporation seal shall contain the words, "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," and an impression thereof is hereto affixed.

[Seal] [Signed] Heber J. Grant
President of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints.

STATE OF UTAH
SS:
COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

On this 26th day of November, 1923, before me, Arthur Winter, a Notary Public in and for said County, personally appeared HEBER J. GRANT, who is known to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to the foregoing instrument as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and duly acknowledged to me that he executed the same as such President.

[Seal] [Signed] Arthur Winter
Notary Public
Residing at Salt Lake City, Utah.
My commission expires Dec. 1, 1923.

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AMENDMENT TO

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

 

 

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
STATE OF UTAH ss.
COUNTY OF SALT LAKE

HEBER J. GRANT, being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

That he is now and for more than twenty years last past has been the duly chosen and appointed President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and as such President has been since on or about the 26th day of November, 1923, and now is, the legally constituted Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter=day Saints, a corporation sole; that under and pursuant to Section 18-7-5 R.S.U. 1933 he hereby amends Article "Fourth" of said Articles of Incorporation as now of record in the proper offices of this and other states, said article as amended to read as follows:

ARTICLE FOURTH

Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is "President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.

[Signed] Heber J. Grant
President of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints,
corporation sole.
[Seal]

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 18 day of June, 1940.
[the name of Notary Public not shown on copy of amendment]

(Original in State of Utah Archives, Salt Lake City, Utah)

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ARTICLES OF AMENDMENT
TO THE

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
of the
CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

A UTAH CORPORATION SOLE

Pursuant to the provisions of Section 16-7-5 of the Utah Code Annotated 1953 (as amended) relating to amendments of articles of incorporation of corporations sole, the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole, does hereby amend its Articles of Incorporation by adding an additional Paragraph V thereto as follows:

Upon the winding up and dissolution of this corporation, after paying or adequately providing for the debts and obligations of the corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to a nonprofit fund, foundation or corporation, which is organized and operated exclusively for charitable, educational, or religious and/or scientific purposes and which has established its tax-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned has caused these presents to be executed this 19th day of November, 1973.

CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE
CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY
SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole

By: [signed] Harold B. Lee
Harold B. Lee, Corporation Sole

STATE OF UTAH ) ss:
County of Salt Lake )

HAROLD B. LEE, being first duly sworn, deposes and says: That he is now and ever since July 7, 1972, has been the duly chosen and appointed President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and, as such president, is now and ever since said date has been the legally constituted CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS, a Utah Corporation Sole; that the original Articles of Incorporation of said Corporation Sole were executed by Heber J. Grant, President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints; that he, Harold B. Lee, is the successor in office to the said Heber J. Grant; that he, Harold B. Lee, executed the foregoing Articles of Amendment as said Corporation Sole.

[signed] Harold B. Lee

SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN to before me this 19th day of November, 1973.

[signed] Wilford W Kirton, Jr
NOTARY PUBLIC
Residing at Salt Lake City, Utah
My commission expires:
2-3-77

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Articles of Incorporation as amended:

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION

First: The name of this corporation shall be the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Second: The object of this corporation shall be to acquire, hold and dispose of such real and personal property as may be conveyed to or acquired by said corporation for the benefit of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a religious society, for the benefit of religion, for works of charity and for public worship. Such real and personal property may be situated, either within the State of Utah, or elsewhere, and this corporation shall have power, without any authority or authorization from the members of said Church or religious society, to grant, sell, convey, rent, mortgage, exchange, or otherwise dispose of any part or all of such property.

Third: The estimated value of the property of which I hold the legal title for the purpose aforesaid, at the time of making these Articles of Incorporation, is One Million, Five Hundred Thousand Dollars.

Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is "President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.

Fifth: Upon the winding up and dissolution of this corporation, after paying or adequately providing for the debts and obligations of the corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to a nonprofit fund, foundation or corporation, which is organized and operated exclusively for charitable, educational, or religious and/or scientific purposes and which has established its tex-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

Sixth: The corporate seal shall contain the words, "Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," and an impression thereof is hereto affixed.

[Elsie]

Wow. This is incredible information you have provided.

It mattereth not.

[Elsie]

Well i don,t know, but i think i would become a Mormon if polygamy was enforced, but they can not enforce polygamy because the book of Mormon forbids it, that is why i only believe in the Bible.

 

Polygamy: How it all got Started

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Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?

 

Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?

 

Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.

 

Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!

 

Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!

 

 

Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"

 

 

Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!

 

 

 

 

 

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...and the rest is HISTORY...

 

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THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI

CHAPTER 2

 

  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.

 

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Or even HERE:

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 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

 

 

1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.

 

 

 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.

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Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!

 

Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!

 

 

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 132

 

  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 

 

  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to ^aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.

  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, ^areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.

  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been ^afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.

  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and ^acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be ^bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.

  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ^ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of ^beternal lives in the eternal worlds.

  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid ^aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to ^brejoice.

[Elsie]

Why ask me you when you should be asking your LDS wife.

I guess those withOUT a TR do NOT have to waste their time being DEAD-dunked for others.

Smart move; Resty!

[Elsie]

The point was you already deny the truth!

It is true (according to MORMONism) that without a TR a person will NOT dwell with GOD forever.

[Elsie]

Are you saying JR reads private freepmail without freepers knowledge?

DUH!!!

It's HIS computer, silly!

He can do ANYTHING with it he wishes!