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To: Manic_Episode
The American Standard Version Online Bible (ASV)
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith Jehovah, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts: I am the first, and I am the last; and besides me there is no God.

The Young's Literal Translation Online Bible (YLT)
Isaiah 44:6 Thus said Jehovah, king of Israel, And his Redeemer, Jehovah of Hosts: `I [am] the first, and I the last, And besides Me there is no God.

MY COMMENT:If you look in Strong's you will see that the Tetragrammaton(God's name) was present when the King James version uses LORD. Note that the ASV, the YLT(posted above) and many others use Jehovah or Yahweh(God's name).

If your logic is that Rev 1:8-1:18 shows that Jesus is Jehovah(if not then what are you trying to show?), then that would mean that John had seen Jehovah. This would have the bible contradicting itself in more ways than one.

i.e. Isaiah 46 and
John 1:18
No man hath SEEN God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 5:37
And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor SEEN his shape.
John 6:46
Not that any man hath SEEN the Father, save he which is of God, he hath SEEN the Father.

MY COMMENT:You might want to look a little deeper. The trinity is the main argument used by unchristian religions to brand christiandom as false religion.

47 posted on 12/04/2011 8:47:48 AM PST by eazdzit (Did your Congressman challenge/Qualify OBAMA? Throw the bums out. WE need a 3rd Party.Palin in 2012)
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To: eazdzit
John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
48 posted on 12/04/2011 1:08:42 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: eazdzit; Manic_Episode
If your logic is that Rev 1:8-1:18 shows that Jesus is Jehovah(if not then what are you trying to show?), then that would mean that John had seen Jehovah. This would have the bible contradicting itself in more ways than one.

There's plenty more than Rev 1:8-18 that shows Jesus is Yahweh. You could start with Elizabeth's declaration about Mary being the mother of her Lord. The wife of a Jewish priest has one Lord, who is Yahweh.


62 posted on 12/05/2011 5:27:31 AM PST by aruanan
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