Posted on 11/30/2011 5:08:01 PM PST by TSgt
It appears the parishioners don't get it either...
Snarkey Ping ;-)
When will he come out and tell Catholics they can’t support abortion?
Pelosi, Kerry and others really want to know.
I was unaware of the Biblical principle of hand-holding during prayer. Please cite the chapter and verse that teaches us this Biblical principle.
I grew up in the Church during the 60’s and the first half of the 70’s. There was never hand holding during the Lord’s Prayer. Then when I returned to the Church in the 90’s, all of a sudden everyone was holding hands, and the people on the end of the aisle were putting their free hand up in the air like some sort of lightning rod. Much changed from 1974 to 1993. :)
What the bishop is saying is that the Lord’s Prayer is supposed to be directed to Our Father. It is not a kumbaya moment.
And I fail to see how you can suggest that prayerfully saying the Lord’s Prayer in church is not biblical.
Which "Biblical principles" mandate hand-holding in church?
I understand that the same bishop also frowns on the faithful making baloney sandwiches during the Our Father. That should show you how cravenly dedicated he is to slavishly following his idolatrous traditions of men.
Matthew 16:18 “..on this rock I build my church..”
Biblical pricipals are that the church has a head. Its first head was Peter. This “headship”, or papacy, was initiated by Jesus.
If you think I have misinterpreted the verse then Read Isaiah 22 and reexamine your opinion - especially with regard to the “keys” language in both Mt. 16:20 and Isaiah.
This is the diocese that paid Stan Chesley almost $100, 000, 000. 00 to go away and let them be.
Wish all bishops took that position. And the Sign of Peace as well. It’s not that I don’t wish peace to everyone. It’s that I don’t want to shake germy hands before communion.
How does holding my husband’s hand during the prayer direct it away from Our Father? Should I put my children down as well if I’m holding one of them or is the physical contact with them also too much of a kumbaya moment?
Yep.
When I was 14 the nuns would tell me and my girlfriend to not hold hands during mass. We ignored them of course.
This only applies during Mass. In private prayer you can hold your hands and arms as you see fit.
You betcha! I’m 72 years of age and I detest holding germy hands as well. I wish this ritual is stopped. I do say “Peace be to you” I don’t see the need to shake hands.
I just read Isaiah 22. It’s talking about Jesus dying for our sins.
“and the burden that was upon it shall be cut off”
Maybe the wrong reference?
I fail to see what posture, holding hands, or any other physical motion has to do with prayer. What difference does it make? And by what authority does the clergy dictate to the people their posture in prayer? Is there somewhere in the Bible that we are told to bow our heads? Or fold our hands? Or kneel? Or stand? Or lie face down on the floor?
OUR Father
Give US... OUR daily bread.
Deliver US
It’s all about US talking together to the Father.
It absolutely IS a kumbaya moment.
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