[Not gonna take it anymore]

Sorry I am not going back and trying to read other posts without a link.

Douay-Rheims Bible

3 And we will not have you ignorant, brethren, concerning them that are asleep, that you be not sorrowful, even as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died, and rose again; even so them who have slept through Jesus, will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you in the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them who have slept. 16 For the Lord himself shall come down from heaven with commandment, and with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead who are in Christ, shall rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, shall be taken up together with them in the clouds to meet Christ, into the air, and so shall we be always with the Lord. 18 Wherefore, comfort ye one another with these words.

I will ask again, where is the Rapture here? As you define it?

[GiovannaNicoletta]

When Jesus says that He will come in the clouds and "catch up" (original Greek harpazo) those in Him and take them to "where He is" which, as we know from John 14:2 is in Heaven, what exactly does that mean to you? What do you think that refers to?

Sorry I am not going back and trying to read other posts without a link.

Well, I'm not going to re-post something I already posted and gave you the numbers for, and as for the Scripture, I gave the Scripture references that speak about the Rapture. If you still think that they don't pertain to the Rapture, that is up to you to prove.

[caww]

Pretty obvious this is the “order” which will occur in the rapture. The dead in Christ first, then we who remain...Together...will meet Him in the air. Not hard to see this.

As for looking for the word “Rapture”..it's simply no different then calling ‘Christmas” Christmas. We celebrate his birth on this day ...but when He came it was a matter that He was born, the promise had arrived...nobody announced it was Christmas.

I think people get hung up so much on what they can't see that they miss entirely the truths of that which they can see ...and therefore, once again, miss the high calling of God in Christ Jesus...stuck on distractive issues which are not issues at all. A favorite tactic of the enemy of men's souls.