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To: boatbums
Ahh, a post full of Scripture reinterpreted, a reply to something not said, the obvious and worn out pretense that if Christ established a priesthood for His Church it's the same as continuing the Old Testament Church which is a blatant lie, something no one said, something only those few who prefer to torture Scripture rather than accept the clear meaning of Scripture even imagines is implied. Another post that's all a claim to understanding Scripture by someone who has no life in them. Just another example of those who worship their own intellect trying to wiggle around and reinterpret Scripture to hide from their own lies,misstatements, and above all hide from the Truth in Scripture. Replying based on preconceptions, pretending others say things they didn't, and so on, the exact same tactics all the leftists and fascists use and have used to promote the fantasy that each individual is their own final authority to the whole society. Based on the fruits of their labors, the most Protestant and Protestant derived society in history, the society that has become a perfect reflection of those who each have their own personal interpretation of Scripture, we recognize them for what they are. Same tactics, same self above all else mindset, same worship of self, plain and clear for all to see.

God delegated authority over the people to Moses and Core asserted that he didn't have to submit to those Moses placed in authority over the people because Core said all those who came out of Egypt were chosen and equal. God The Father Himself killed Core and his followers.
Christ delegated authority over His Church to the Apostles but the self-worshiping crowd insist that they do not need to submit to those the Apostles place in authority over the people in His Church because the self-worshipers claim that everyone who believes in their own personal interpretation of Scripture is equal to those ordained by the Apostles. Christ through the Holy Spirit gave those who follow Core over to a reprobate mind leaving them spiritually dead.
A clear, exact, comparison, one situation to another, both cases being identical in substance and effect, which is why Jude warned us about Core. The Bible and The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church are on the side of the Apostles, and the self-worshipers are on the side of Core. Whether anyone likes it or not and no matter how much anyone tries to deny the very simple sentence, "Obey your prelates and be subject to them".

Another thing on sale at Amazon, something sure to please pink piggy crowd, is magnetic kissing salt and pepper shakers. Neither of the little piggies has a pearl necklace on, unfortunately, since we all know it's silly to expect swine to have anything to do with pearls.

have a nice day

3,536 posted on 12/10/2011 11:59:13 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Rashputin
So, in addition to being piggies and dogs, we are now fascists and leftists. Too bad all you have is names and labels but nothing of substance to fortify your assertions. I notice that you have YET to comment about why Peter quite clearly speaks of the "priesthood of all believers", why is that? I would not even be arguing this point with you had Peter not by divine inspiration said exactly that. So, who now is "replying based on preconceptions, pretending others say things they didn't, and so on"?

Now, I realize that you probably have quite a bit riding on your assurance of Scripture commanding you to blindly obey all that comes down to you from your "authority", but my authority - and it SHOULD be every Christians' - is the Holy Scriptures. Because what the Apostles did after they assured those who continued the ministry of reconciliation of Jesus Christ were well established in the orthodox teachings, enscripturated (wrote down) all that the Holy Spirit brought to their remembrance - JUST as Jesus told them he would. Therefore, whatever any person teaches to their congregation should be grounded in the teachings of the Bible.

This is hardly a new idea. In fact, nearly every one of those called Early Church Fathers stated that nothing they teach should be heard if it was not verified by Scripture. These sites have many of those men's words about how important the Scriptures are as the authority for doctrines of the faith - http://www.bible.ca/sola-scriptura-apostolic-fathers-athanasius.htm and http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Ancients_on_Scripture.html#.

My faith is based upon the teachings of the Bible and I would hope anyone who sincerely is seeking to know the truth will come to God, believe that he is and that he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. His Holy Word is our divinely-inspired, infallible source for truth. Any leader of God's people MUST have Scripture as their authority and God would never expect his children to follow anyone who did not teach his truth. He has also given us the indwelling Holy Spirit who would lead us into all truth. So we have God's word, the Holy Spirit and, hopefully, leaders who have both as well as the gift of teaching and preaching so that they can train up God's people in the truth. I hope this is your true desire - to KNOW Christ.

3,540 posted on 12/11/2011 12:47:41 AM PST by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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