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To: presently no screen name

“Only an idiot “

there you have it, every Christian up until the 16th century was an idiot.

“Jesus died ONCE”

you seem like an expert in the Faith, how many times does the Church teach Jesus died?


328 posted on 11/25/2011 2:23:51 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; presently no screen name; metmom; CynicalBear
The Catholic Church pretend dies Christ "wholly and completely" every time a Mass is given. I know, it's just an "unbloody" Mass, BUT...

"There should be no doubt in anyone's mind "that all the faithful ought to show to this most holy sacrament [wafer which allegedly has been transformed in to Christ's body] the worship which is DUE TO THE TRUE GOD, as has always been the custom of the Catholic Church. Nor is it to be adored any the less because it was instituted by Christ to be eaten." [quoting Trent]...he is to be ADORED there because he is SUBSTANTIALLY [physically] present there...WHOLE AND ENTIRE, GOD AND MAN...PERMANENTLY..through that conversion of bread and wine which, as the Council of Trent tells us, is most aptly named transubstantiation. ...in the Eucharist we become partakers of the Body and Blood of God's only Son...[and] the partaking of the Body and Blood of Christ has no less an effect than to CHANGE US INTO WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED.Vatican II. Austin Flannery, O.P.,gen ed., Vatican Council II: The Conciliar and Post Conciliar Documents, rev.ed. (Costello Publishing, 1988), vol. 1, pp. 104,107,109.

Just as a SMALL aside, where does the blood of Christ come from? When Christ came to His disciples on the resurrection evening they thought they were seeing a spirit. To prove He was alive, He said,"Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not FLESH AND BONES, as ye see Me have." NOT FLESH AND BLOOD. Luke 24:39. The one disciple not present was Thomas.

But when Christ returned a week later, He invited Thomas to "Reach hither thy hand and thrust it into my side, and be not faithless, but believing." (John 20:27). Did Thomas' hand come back all bloody after he thrust it into Christ's wound? No. The gaping hole into which Thomas could thrust his whole hand into is further evidence that there is NO BLOOD in Christ's body. So, where does the blood come from that the wine is "turned into"?

330 posted on 11/25/2011 2:49:12 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; presently no screen name
pnsn: “Jesus died ONCE”

oLofob: you seem like an expert in the Faith, how many times does the Church teach Jesus died?

Nobody needs to be an expert to understand plain English.

Hebrews 9:11-12 11But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things that have come, then through the greater and more perfect tent ( not made with hands, that is, not of this creation) 12he entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption.

Hebrews 9:24-28 24For Christ has entered, not into holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true things, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God on our behalf. 25Nor was it to offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters the holy places every year with blood not his own, 26for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, 28so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

332 posted on 11/25/2011 2:53:27 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Gee, your catholic liberalism is showing. Twisting what was said. But that fits even your interpretation of God's Word.

You CAN'T serve two masters - God and 'man'. Either it's God's Word or man made teachings - don't mix the two. Because man made teachings/traditions nullify God's Word. Only use the one that is the Final Authority to you.

you seem like an expert in the Faith

Explain what makes one an expert in the faith that you speak of.

And what is faith?

And where do you get faith?

I believe you enjoy little quizzes - so I'm sure you will return your answers pronto.

how many times does the Church teach Jesus died?

You might want to rephrase that sentence - your writing is just as screwed up as your comprehension. That could be the result of too much spinning and twisting.

And when you post to me - don't say 'the church'. Say catholic church - or mormon church - those are man made churches w/man made teachings. It's best to keep things honest and clear. I attend God's church where Jesus is the HEAD and where HIS WORD is the FINAL AUTHORITY and anyone entering through our doors already know Jesus died ONCE.

You think you can remember that - Christians go to where Jesus the Christ is the Head and where GOD'S Word is the FINAL Authority, Catholics go to a catholic church where man is the head where man made teachings reign and Mormons go to the mormon church, also, where man made teachings reign. I believe even you can keep that straight.
344 posted on 11/25/2011 3:30:40 PM PST by presently no screen name ( “If it’s not in God’s Word - don’t pass it off as truth! That’s satan’s job. “)
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