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To: rzman21; CynicalBear
Truth is relative, so why should anyone care about the way you interpret the scriptures.

You have your interpretation, Luther had his, etc.

The Bible says whatever you want it to. Don’t you know that?

Consequently, you lack any objective criteria to judge what the Catholic Church of the Church Fathers taught.

Do you read anything you write?

If truth is relative and the Bible can say anything you want it to, then what is the standard that the Catholic Church of the Church Fathers used when they taught?? Can they also not be called into question -- along with the Magisterium -- as to what they consider to be truth, since according to you truth is relative? They absolutely can!

But, the Holy Spirit cannot be called into question....

You've just pulled the rug out from under any argument you care to muster. All any of us here have to say to refute you is... "truth is relative, and you can make it say anything you want."

Hoss

1,290 posted on 11/29/2011 1:44:41 PM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: HossB86

Can’t you take a little sarcasm. The meaning is found in the universal understandings in all, places, and times by all orthodox believers.

Universal consensuses are a miracle because of human nature. Areas where the Church Fathers were divided are open to debate and discussion.

I just don’t happen to believe that the Holy Spirit inspires individual Protestants when they read the Bible to their own delights.

So when I hear Protestants attacking the Catholic Church, I hear a lot of hot air.


1,293 posted on 11/29/2011 1:50:54 PM PST by rzman21
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