Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
Do you not understand the difference??
Some posters consistently post the same ignorant attacks and opinions that are not worth even the effort it takes to read them.
I’ve learned to look at the name first and just scroll on by when I see them and ignore the whole post.
It saves a lot of time, I highly recommend it.
Really ?? Please link us to the OFFICIAL Roman commentary ..
The Roman church has an official teaching arm... the Magistrum so that is the one I would like to see.. if possible
How do you know that Arius wasn’t right?
http://arian-catholic.org/
You indicated the biblical commentary could or should be separated from doctrine. Are you backing away from that?
Ohh yes that is true..
Ohh yes that is true..
No it doesn’t. It means what it means and it is ours to find with the help of the Holy Spirit to find that truth. I have often found that what someone told me the scriptures say was totally false. Blindly following what someone else says scripture means is dangerous at best.
Putting faith in some organization to interpret scripture is giving up ones eternal future to individuals who may or may not have their best interest at heart. When the Catholic Church develops official doctrine to counter opposition the risk is greater since it’s obvious they haven’t based their doctrine solely on scripture or they would have established that doctrine long before.
If scripture alone is not the standard by which we determine truth we have no firm foundation.
You have your interpretation, Luther had his, etc.
The Bible says whatever you want it to. Don’t you know that?
Consequently, you lack any objective criteria to judge what the Catholic Church of the Church Fathers taught.
Do you read anything you write?
If truth is relative and the Bible can say anything you want it to, then what is the standard that the Catholic Church of the Church Fathers used when they taught?? Can they also not be called into question -- along with the Magisterium -- as to what they consider to be truth, since according to you truth is relative? They absolutely can!
But, the Holy Spirit cannot be called into question....
You've just pulled the rug out from under any argument you care to muster. All any of us here have to say to refute you is... "truth is relative, and you can make it say anything you want."
Hoss
Sorry that I forgot you are infallible.
A quote from that site:
“teaching that Yeshua was a man to be followed not worshipped”
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Scripture clearly states that Jesus was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. One doesn’t need to read further to understand that the Arian Catholics are in error.
Can’t you take a little sarcasm. The meaning is found in the universal understandings in all, places, and times by all orthodox believers.
Universal consensuses are a miracle because of human nature. Areas where the Church Fathers were divided are open to debate and discussion.
I just don’t happen to believe that the Holy Spirit inspires individual Protestants when they read the Bible to their own delights.
So when I hear Protestants attacking the Catholic Church, I hear a lot of hot air.
Maybe Jesus was an angel. :) There you go with your personal interpretation of scripture.
The logos is a Platonic philosophical concept, so maybe you should think twice about including it in your canon.
Evil philosophy, we can’t have it.
How about blindly following your own ego?
That sounds like a blind follower of a cult talking.
Are you sure that demons don’t help you when you read scripture?
Maybe your reading is not unlike that of David Koresh or Jim Jones.
If you have lost a scriptural base for debate just admit you don’t follow scripture. If you choose to follow Rome admit it and just admit that scripture is secondary to your belief in Rome.
You mean like the cult you belong to. I am laughing at your superior intellect.
You mean like the cult you belong to. I am laughing at your superior intellect.
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