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Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish
Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues
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To: MarkBsnr
>>I understand that Protestants think that the world begins and ends with them<<

At least in your being wrong you are consistent.

3,881 posted on 12/12/2011 7:57:01 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Jvette

You are such an inspiration. Thanks for being online this morning, I appreciate your posts.


3,882 posted on 12/12/2011 8:03:17 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: CynicalBear

Actually, the Catholic site I found discussing it was a defense of why they should be included in Scripture. I never said that it was a site about the errors.

Also, why do you not respond to the rest of the post?

What do you say regarding the very same charges protestants make regarding the Apocrypha that atheists and others use against the ENTIRE Bible?

I cant’ answer the rest of your post now as I am off to work and will be too busy the rest of the day.

I will get to it though.

In the meantime, I will look forward to hearing what you have to say about “errors and contradictions” in even those books of the Bible you accept.

I am still waiting to hear what you have to say regarding the stoning of those who are adulterers and blasphemers.
You haven’t addressed those things from several posts earlier.


3,883 posted on 12/12/2011 8:15:56 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Judith Anne

Thank you, Judith Anne.

Yesterday, it seemed I was starting to get contentious which I don’t like to do. While at Mass, after receiving Our Lord in the Eucharist, I prayed that He would give me patience and love for those who are here. I prayed that I would be a light for those who read my words here and that He would give me the words He to offer a defense of what I believe.

You too are an inspiration in your boldness and your passion.

You remind me of Peter who was very passionate in His love for Jesus. Just don’t go cutting off any body parts;)


3,884 posted on 12/12/2011 8:21:09 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette

I am much more considering auicide by Mod than anything else. Everyone’s ears are safe, no matter what.


3,885 posted on 12/12/2011 8:35:29 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: Judith Anne

LOL<

I will keep you in my prayers today.

I’m off to work and then have a meeting tonight, so I won’t be back on today.

Be good:) and May God bless you.


3,886 posted on 12/12/2011 8:40:38 AM PST by Jvette
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To: Judith Anne

I never go on the Catholic/Protestant threads, not my fight and I have friends on both sides, but I kept getting pinged to this one last night so I decided to go over here and check it out. Imagine my surprise when I saw you on here

JA your hypocrisy is AMAZING. You occaisonally comes on the LDS threads and attacks the Christians, complaining about us ‘beating up’ the poor Mormons. You have ordered me to stay off Cath Caucus threads (even when I am invited by the OP), told me I ‘digust you’ and ‘make you sick’, etc, called me evil, accused me of being anti-Catholic (which I am not in any way). Then I saw you making comments like this and I had to laugh at your hypocrisy. So it is ok for YOU to participate in religious debate but not for anyone else? LOL. I’m bookmarking this one.

And for the record, I’m Protestant (Evangelical) but don’t have a dog in this fight. Continue on, kids...

cc’d to - ejonesie22; metmom; greyfoxx39; tminusfour; elsie; colofornian; godzilla; mhgintn; amoreperfectunion; caww


3,887 posted on 12/12/2011 8:41:33 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

cc’d to - ejonesie22; metmom; greyfoxx39; tminusfour; elsie; colofornian; godzilla; mhgintn; amoreperfectunion; caww

sory that CC list was regarding a Freepmail, not this post. That is what I get for cutting and pasting.


3,888 posted on 12/12/2011 8:43:50 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: rzman21; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Quix:STILL INSISTS ON !!!!CONTROL!!!! and on turning FR into a totally Vatican office controlled out-post of the Vatican itself.

rzman21: >>That sounds like a great idea.

Thanks for confirming what we all already know. The Catholic church is about power and control. Control of EVERYONE and EVERYTHING. It's nothing but a power trip for them, even to the point of controlling people by hanging their eternal destiny over their heads.

There were other FReepers who thought like that. I believe they are no longer with us,

er.... or they WERE no longer with us.

3,889 posted on 12/12/2011 8:54:19 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; rzman21; Quix; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww
Thanks for confirming what we all already know. The Catholic church is about power and control. Control of EVERYONE and EVERYTHING. It's nothing but a power trip for them, even to the point of controlling people by hanging their eternal destiny over their heads.

Thanks for providing everyone such a clear example of what is meant by these words or phrases:
"over the top"
"ignoring the elephant in the living room"
"anachronism"
"projection"

3,890 posted on 12/12/2011 9:00:18 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Jvette; boatbums; caww; metmom
>>In the meantime, I will look forward to hearing what you have to say about “errors and contradictions” in even those books of the Bible you accept.<<

I dismiss them out of hand as having been proven false accusations. Any supposed “errors” in the original 66 books of the Bible have been proven to be based either on error of interpretation or error of taking all of scripture into account.

>>I am still waiting to hear what you have to say regarding the stoning of those who are adulterers and blasphemers.<<

Well, let’s begin with looking at the authenticity of the inclusion of that story in scripture to begin with. There seems to be some doubt about it being in the original manuscripts.

When Dallas Theological Seminary professor Daniel Wallace examined New Testament manuscripts stored in the National Archive in Albania last June, he was amazed by what he did not find.

The story of the woman caught in adultery, usually found in John 7:53-8:11, was missing from three of the texts, and was out of place in a fourth, tacked on to the end of John's Gospel. [http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/aprilweb-only/117-31.0.html]

Even given that, the story was a test by the Pharisees. It was meant to trap Jesus. There was a dilemma facing the Pharisees in this passage. The Jewish law required death, but Roman law did not permit a death sentence for adultery. The Jews lived under Roman law. If they stoned the woman, they would be prosecuted for murder by the Romans. If they don't stone her to death, they are not following the Jewish law. Jesus, by handling it the way He did, diffused the situation and didn’t fall for the trap. Satan knew that if Jesus answered the question other then He did He would have been guilty of one law or the other.

The one lesson we can learn is that we must be careful answering questions that are meant to trap. It’s a tactic of Satan.

3,891 posted on 12/12/2011 9:09:25 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Judith Anne; boatbums; Quix; rzman21; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; ...
What post was that? Seriously, I don’t see it. I’m willing to be wrong, here. What post called a non-Catholic Satanic?

You're willing to be wrong? How condescending of you.

Well, here you go, in addition to the one bb has posted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2811552/posts?page=3593#3593

To: metmom

Get behind me Satan!

3,593 posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:48:16 PM by rzman21

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

3,892 posted on 12/12/2011 9:10:33 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Judith Anne; caww
Tell you what — I’ll take back my “null and void” post to you, since you don’t like it. “May the Lord Jesus and God Almighty NOT bless you with a sound mind, a peaceful heart, and a blessed Christmas with your loved ones.”

How about this, instead: “Have a nice day, heretic!”

What a ray of sunshine.....

3,893 posted on 12/12/2011 9:21:34 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Ah, the phony Catholic gets all hysterical over something I didn’t post.


3,894 posted on 12/12/2011 9:28:56 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: Judith Anne
Now you won’t even accept a blessing

Considering the source...that's correct.

3,895 posted on 12/12/2011 9:30:45 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

Great! Saves time!


3,896 posted on 12/12/2011 9:35:37 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: Judith Anne

Um, sure looks like Mom quoted your post #3858. So, if you ‘didn’t post’ that slur/curse, whom is it that uses your screen name with you. You better get them under control ‘cause they’re bringing shame to the Catholic identity.


3,897 posted on 12/12/2011 9:40:49 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Judith Anne
How would you address the Blessed Virgin Mary?

I wouldn't.

Mary worship is a man made pagan practice which infiltrated the church centuries ago and one of the many reasons God raised up men to remove the faithful from the false teachings and practices which the church refused to rid itself up...and which continue to this day.

What God has convinced me and many others, through prayer and Scripture reading, is that Rome is wrong for it's pagan teachings and practices it continues to use to keep it's membership in bondage to it's leadership....and the end result is they miss the High Calling of God which is in Christ Jesus.

3,898 posted on 12/12/2011 9:41:57 AM PST by caww
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To: MHGinTN

I actually used to like you, and look forward to reading your posts.

Another Catholic posted that slurthat bb complained about, but I think I will stand with him, so go ahead, blame me.


3,899 posted on 12/12/2011 9:48:00 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: caww

So what? Yoor demonic beliefs mean nothing to me.


3,900 posted on 12/12/2011 9:49:09 AM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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