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To: Cronos

Yes. I understand the controversy. I became a Christian back in 1981. Other than the bible, apologetic, and prophesy, this has been a topic I’ve studied. I don’t consider it scripture.

Sorry about that. We just disagree.


151 posted on 11/03/2011 4:52:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
those who reject the Deuterocanonicals have a doctrine unsupported by Scripture. -- remember Apocalypse 22:19 says " 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Jesus quotes from the Deuterocanonical books -- Matt. 6:19-20 references Sirach 29:11 and Matt. 7:16,20 references Sirach 27:6,Matt. 24:15 references 1 Macc. 1:54 and Matt. 24:16 references 1 Macc. 2:28 among others.

Some say incorrectly that Jesus never quoted from them, ignoring the above, Yet in the New Testament, the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Ecclesiastes, and the Song of Solomon are not quoted at all -- does that mean they are not inspired?

And to the point that only if Christ quoted them, then you have to junk out Haggai, Habbakuk, Amos and Joel. the Synod of Rome in 382 AD, council of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397,419) held the Deuterocanonical books as inspired

This was then ratified by the 2nd council of Nicaea (787) and Florence (1438-1445). So, I'm sorry but the Deuterocanonicals were held so long before Trent

Rejection of the Deuterocanonicals is doctrine unsupported by scripture.

162 posted on 11/03/2011 6:00:36 AM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: cuban leaf
In fact, the Deuterocanonical books are in the Bible. These are not separate, but were incorrectly removed (which one could say is in violation of Apocalypse 22:19 which says "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.")

These books were in the Septuagint and were referenced in the New Testament as shown in some examples above.

163 posted on 11/03/2011 6:08:18 AM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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