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To: BenKenobi
>>Is there anything in scripture to the contrary?<<

Please tell me that’s not your baseline for doctrine. But actually yes there is. For one, if she had died and was taken after death scripture would be incorrect on its account of resurrections. The complete story of Mary after Christ’s death and resurrection is built on myth only.

47 posted on 10/28/2011 3:34:30 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear
Circa 400 AD Canon 85: Concerning Holy Scripture. Ἔστω δὲ ὑμῖν πᾶσι κληρικοῖς καὶ λαϊκοῖς βιβλία σεβάσμια καὶ ἅγια· τῆς μὲν Παλαιᾶς Διαθήκης, Μωυσέως, πέντε· Γένεσις, Ἔξοδος, Λευιτικόν, Ἀριθμοί, καὶ Δευτερονόμιον· Ἰησοῦ τοῦ Ναυῆ ἕν· τῶν Κριτῶν ἕν· τῆς Ρούθ ἕν· Βασιλειῶν τέσσαρα· Παραλειπομένων, τῆς βίβλου τῶν ἡμερῶν, δύο· Ἔσδρα δύο· Ἐσθήρ ἕν· [Ἰουδεὶθ ἕν·] Μακκαβαίων τρία· Ἰώβ ἕν· Ψαλμοὶ ἑκατὸν πεντήκοντα· Σολομῶνος βιβλία τρία, Παροιμίαι, Ἐκκλησιαστής, ᾄσμα ᾀσμάτων· Προφῆται δέκα ἕξ· Ἔξωθεν δὲ ὑμῖν προσιστορείσθω μανθάνειν ὑμῶν τοὺς νέους τὴν Σοφίαν τοῦ πολυμαθοῦς Σειράχ. Ἡμέτερα δὲ, τουτέστι τῆς Καινῆς Διαθήκης, Εὐαγγέλια τέσσαρα, Ματθαίου, Μάρκου, Λουκᾶ, Ἰωάννου· Παύλου ἐπιστολαὶ δεκατέσσαρες· Πέτρου ἐπιστολαί δύο· Ἰωάννου τρεῖς· Ἰακώβου μία· Ἰούδα μία· Κλήμεντος ἐπιστολαί δύο, καὶ αἱ Διαταγαὶ ὑμῖν τοῖς ἐπισκόποις δι’ ἐμοῦ Κλήμεντος ἐν ὀκτὼ βιβλίοις προσπεφωνημέναι, ἃς οὐ χρὴ δημοσιεύειν ἐπὶ πάντων διὰ τὰ ἐν αὐταῖς μυστικά· καὶ αἱ Πράξεις ἡμῶν τῶν Ἀποστόλων. Let the following books be esteemed venerable and holy by all of you, both clergy and laity. Of the Old Testament: the five books of Moses, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy; one of Joshua the son of Nun; one of the Judges; one of Ruth; four of the Kings; 1 two of Paralipomena (the books of Chronicles); two of Ezra; 2 one of Esther; [one of Judith;] 3 three of the Maccabees; one of Job; the one hundred and fifty Psalms; three books of Solomon: Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs; the sixteen of the Prophets. And see that those newly come to discipleship become acquainted with the Wisdom of the learned Sirach. 4 And ours, that is, of the New Testament, are the four Gospels, of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John; the fourteen epistles of Paul; two epistles of Peter; three of John; one of James; one of Jude; two epistles of Clement; and the Constitutions dedicated to you, the bishops, by me, Clement, in eight books, which it is not appropriate to make public before all, because of the mysteries contained in them; and the Acts of us, the Apostles.
49 posted on 10/28/2011 3:43:20 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: CynicalBear

“But actually yes there is. For one, if she had died and was taken after death scripture would be incorrect on its account of resurrections.”

Does the doctrine or scripture give any account of her death?

“The complete story of Mary after Christ’s death and resurrection is built on myth only.”

I’m not quite sure you understand the doctrine. There is nothing in the doctrine that states that Mary died and was then taken into heaven.


50 posted on 10/28/2011 3:48:13 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: CynicalBear

Why do you believe that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are inspired, or Revelation for that matter?

There isn’t anything intrinsic in them that says they are.

Why not Bartholomew, Thomas, Egyptians, and Mary? If scripture alone is your only authority, what gives you the authority to say that the New Testament canon is correct.

Who decided? Isn’t the canon Tradition?


51 posted on 10/28/2011 3:55:48 PM PDT by rzman21
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