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To: D-fendr; smvoice
I’m certain you know what garbage I’m talking about, BB. If you don’t go to the moderators page and visit some of the sites listed there. And, you also know if, as I asked in our last exchange, you looked at the posts of those you objected to my replies to. If you still don’t know what I’m referring to, then I can’t help you and I doubt anyone else can.

Not to drag this on any more than it should be, but why can't you seem to accept that the comments made were not from banned sites but from the publications that were given as stated? I even showed that one of them could have been verbatim from the Vatican website. If all are to be burdened with doing a web search of every line of a quote or source just to make sure it has NEVER been repeated at any of those sites, then nobody could hardly ever post anything. If that is the motive, then I think some of you need to avoid open Religion Forum threads because, until that becomes the rule, practically everything may disturb you.

It is noticeable that not one has commented yet on the passages that speak of the blind obedience expected from your Magesterium. I think this smokescreen of offended feelings is not working as expected.

3,309 posted on 11/21/2011 7:59:20 PM PST by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums; D-fendr
THANK YOU, boatbums. That's the point I've been trying to make to no avail, except fortunately the RM and you guys. If a source is acknowledged and the information is given down to the chapter and page number, then what else is there to do? A person cannot read the entire website looking for a particular sentence so they can POUNCE like they've discovered some kind of nefarious plan. Hey, the information may be anywhere, but I've given where I've found it and I've sourced it.

The only alternative lays with the accuser. Prove it or shut up. If you don't like my sources, go to the RM to get it straight. But do NOT accuse me of going someplace I haven't been in order to get information that I've already sourced. That's the heighth of stupidity. Like you said, NOTHING would ever be posted. Maybe that's the point, in some cases. They don't care where they come from, I don't think. They just don't want the messages given. Even when they come from their OWN CCC or Vatican Councils, or doctrines, or traditions. It must be embarrassing to see it written in black and white. That's all I can figure out.

3,314 posted on 11/21/2011 8:11:44 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: D-fendr
"It is noticeable that not one has commented yet on the passages that speak of the blind obedience expected from your Magesterium."

Have you ever asked yourself how we can take as credible anything said by those who claim to have been Catholic and rejected it when everything they say about the Church is such a compete fabrication? There is no "blind obedience" demanded of anyone.

CCC 144 - To obey (from the Latin ob-audire, to "hear or listen to") in faith is to submit freely to the word that has been heard, because its truth is guaranteed by God, who is Truth itself. Abraham is the model of such obedience offered us by Sacred Scripture. The Virgin Mary is its most perfect embodiment.

3,319 posted on 11/21/2011 8:21:47 PM PST by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: boatbums; smvoice
>>It is noticeable that not one has commented yet on the passages that speak of the blind obedience expected from your Magesterium. I think this smokescreen of offended feelings is not working as expected.<<

That is rather telling isn’t it? Obviously they cannot refute the proofs that have been posted.

3,326 posted on 11/21/2011 8:39:34 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: boatbums; smvoice; CynicalBear
It is noticeable that not one has commented yet on the passages that speak of the blind obedience expected from your Magesterium. I think this smokescreen of offended feelings is not working as expected.

Indeed, the focus has all been on smvoice and the accusations against her, and NOT the content of the quotes, which is abominable and ought to be an embarrassment to Catholics an Catholicism.

3,332 posted on 11/21/2011 8:48:44 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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