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To: MarkBsnr
"If Jesus didn't pay the whole price for you, you are sunk..."

So just accept that your Salvation was determined before the beginning of time, that it was fully paid for 2,000 years ago and party on; sex, drugs, rock and roll. Nothing you can do can screw it up.......or you can take what is behind door number 2; the hope of Salvation.

"So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling;" - Philippians 2:12

1,074 posted on 11/06/2011 2:01:43 PM PST by Natural Law (Transubstantiation - Change we can believe in.)
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To: Natural Law; Iscool; CynicalBear; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; ...
Courtesy ping to Iscool since you quoted him and didn't oping him to tell him that you were discussing his post....

NL:So just accept that your Salvation was determined before the beginning of time, that it was fully paid for 2,000 years ago and party on; sex, drugs, rock and roll. Nothing you can do can screw it up.......or you can take what is behind door number 2; the hope of Salvation.

What an appalling ignorance and gross misrepresentation of the Gospel and Christians. It's really too bad that is all you have to try to discredit the Gospel message.

Romans 6 1What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? 2By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? 3Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.

5For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. 7For one who has died has been set free from sin. 8Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. 10For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. 11So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.

12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. 13 Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. 14For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.

15What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, 18and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. 19 I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.

20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

1,079 posted on 11/06/2011 2:13:04 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law
If Jesus didn't pay the whole price for you, you are sunk..."

So just accept that your Salvation was determined before the beginning of time, that it was fully paid for 2,000 years ago and party on; sex, drugs, rock and roll. Nothing you can do can screw it up.......or you can take what is behind door number 2; the hope of Salvation.

"So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling;" - Philippians 2:12

Whee. Nothing of import that Paul said matters. Nothing that Jesus said matters. It is only what the image in the mirror tells you that matters. Neat. I understand the appeal of Protestantism.

1,094 posted on 11/06/2011 3:23:20 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Natural Law
"If Jesus didn't pay the whole price for you, you are sunk..." So just accept that your Salvation was determined before the beginning of time, that it was fully paid for 2,000 years ago and party on; sex, drugs, rock and roll. Nothing you can do can screw it up.......or you can take what is behind door number 2; the hope of Salvation.

Aren't we sneaky...You won't post to me but you will post to someone else to comment on what I said...

I can't help it if you don't understand scripture nor believe what it says...

I was saved when I accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior...It wasn't my sinful flesh that was saved...It was my spirit and soul...

And like most everyone else, including the Apostles and even you, my flesh will continue to sin...

Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Paul clearly understood the problem but somehow it escapes you even tho you can read his words...

1,124 posted on 11/06/2011 4:53:31 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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