Posted on 10/28/2011 6:59:29 AM PDT by markomalley
My question is why do people think that God is dealing with tribes, or groups, or nations right now? He is clearly dealing with individuals. NOT groups. The RCC claims salvation can be found only in the Catholic Church. What do they think? That they are going to be bussed into heaven and stand as a group before God under the RCC banner? Pffffttt. I’m sure they find great comfort in numbers, believing God sees them that way. But they could not be more wrong. He will again deal with nations, as soon as Israel’s blindness is removed and She begins her long trek back to His original plan for Her. A kingdom of priests and a blessing to all nations. Until that time though, it is about each individual accepting the finished work of Christ for his salvation.
*cultivated*?!?!
Boy are you being generous.
Imposed by brainwashing is more like it. With threats of eternal damnation for enforcement.
I'm mostly grateful you didn't claim you got it from your Bible Study Group - since you don't get anything from websites. :)
The no condemnation is for NOW. Not later. NOW.
Interesting comment CB....because without submission there couldn’t be the control which will be prevelant then.
Needless saying many of the cults and false religion “followers” are set up for that already. In the process of their indoctrination often times critical thinking is all but seared out of an individual in slow and easy increments generally stuctured in such as way as to successfully hide the deception they are under... so much so the individual does not identify this occurring.
I find it interesting that volumes of literature is encouraged to be read and or purchased as well in many of the cults/false religions. Anything to divert away from the scriptures themselves so that the individual relys on authors and their experiences, and teachings, rather than determine even if what they are being led thru is truth or not.
Thus they are set up to believe when the great deception does come. muslims of course will fall right into line, and New Agers and many of the Eastern faiths...mormons as well and all who have sought leadership and authority apart from the Lord and His word as their standard of measuring truth or falsehood.
I did get it from my Bible Study group. That is the point, dear D-fendr. Sourced ackowledgments of information, including information from your very own CCC, Councils, doctrines, and traditions, gathered together to study a particular topic and compare it to what the Bible says. In this case, the coming one world religion, tribulation, anti-Christ and false religions claiming they are the true religion. All being cults in that they follow another gospel, another Jesus, another spirit, another doctrine, etc. In particular Roman Catholicism as a cult and Rev. 17 and 18, describing the Whore who sits upon many waters. Expect more, and be sure to read the acknowledgments, as they ARE sourced and detailed. :)
Does your Bible Study Group ever get around to the Bible?
Our RCIA facility is pretty tidy, but I'll bet there are a lot of Bible Study centers with stacks of 30 year old news papers from cities all across the country laying around....[sarc]
Not to drag this on any more than it should be, but why can't you seem to accept that the comments made were not from banned sites but from the publications that were given as stated? I even showed that one of them could have been verbatim from the Vatican website. If all are to be burdened with doing a web search of every line of a quote or source just to make sure it has NEVER been repeated at any of those sites, then nobody could hardly ever post anything. If that is the motive, then I think some of you need to avoid open Religion Forum threads because, until that becomes the rule, practically everything may disturb you.
It is noticeable that not one has commented yet on the passages that speak of the blind obedience expected from your Magesterium. I think this smokescreen of offended feelings is not working as expected.
You’re not reading my posts closely. Comparing what the Bible says to what “religious organizations” teach is the only way to determine a true belief from a lie. It is the Bible that allows discernment. Otherwised you would be blown around by every wind of doctrine that comes along. It IS the Bible that shows the lies of the deceivers.
The big shocker for so many of them is going to come when so many people turn up missing.
For sure.
And the Westminster Confession of Faith was the main topic of my last Bible Study Group.
Looks like some make the moniker Protestant into a doctrine: Sola Recusatio.
Of course I wasn't asking you to believe in the two gods of Mormons or the one of JWs, was I? I was asking you to read for yourself what Scripture actually says rather than what someone tells you it says. Maybe you SHOULD examine why your Church would anathematize you for believing what Scripture says. What you can read for yourself. Ask why they would have you believe THEM over what God clearly says in Scripture.
The only alternative lays with the accuser. Prove it or shut up. If you don't like my sources, go to the RM to get it straight. But do NOT accuse me of going someplace I haven't been in order to get information that I've already sourced. That's the heighth of stupidity. Like you said, NOTHING would ever be posted. Maybe that's the point, in some cases. They don't care where they come from, I don't think. They just don't want the messages given. Even when they come from their OWN CCC or Vatican Councils, or doctrines, or traditions. It must be embarrassing to see it written in black and white. That's all I can figure out.
Seems your Bible Study Group doesn’t have much time left for what your religious organizations teaches – or the Bible.
THAT’S Sirach??? Sounds more like the Koran.
I wouldn't say to no avail.
I think you can use the "Bible Study Group" source bit on some here ad infinitum.
It depends on how a church uses it’s time. Some use it to teach the Bible, rightly divided and comparing Scripture with Scripture. Others use their time to turn wafers and wine into the “Body and Blood” of Christ. I’m sure that leaves very little time for actually reading what the Bible says. And learning how to become effective workmen who need not to be ashamed when they stand before God. You know, being ambassadors for Christ, sharing the good news of the gospel of your salvation. And preaching the reconciliation of God and man through Christ.
Have you ever asked yourself how we can take as credible anything said by those who claim to have been Catholic and rejected it when everything they say about the Church is such a compete fabrication? There is no "blind obedience" demanded of anyone.
CCC 144 - To obey (from the Latin ob-audire, to "hear or listen to") in faith is to submit freely to the word that has been heard, because its truth is guaranteed by God, who is Truth itself. Abraham is the model of such obedience offered us by Sacred Scripture. The Virgin Mary is its most perfect embodiment.
No, when I’ve been in Bible Study Groups, and I’m in one now, we actually study the Bible.
I guess it’s a compliment that some other groups obsess over the Church; and, I’m grateful that I have yet to be in a Bible Study that deemed modernist ideas such as Dispensationalism worth spending time on.
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