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To: Dr. Thorne

Glen Beck is a man, you should love the man, as you perceive he is sinning, you should hate the sin that he does and condemn it.

Don’t condemn the man though, for that makes you the judge of this man which is to claim authority over him, do you think yourself a God?

With your love of the man, pull him to Christ, convert him.

You don’t convert someone with hate and personal attacks.

This is the reason that if this thread hadn’t started out as an attack on a person, you wouldn’t have got so many flames back.

Did Jesus walk down the roads in Israel acting like you are? Follow his example.


101 posted on 09/06/2011 10:50:09 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
Don’t condemn the man though, for that makes you the judge of this man which is to claim authority over him, do you think yourself a God?

Good question...


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


155 posted on 09/06/2011 11:42:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dila813; Dr. Thorne; Elsie; All
Don’t condemn the man though, for that makes you the judge of this man which is to claim authority over him, do you think yourself a God? With your love of the man, pull him to Christ, convert him. You don’t convert someone with hate and personal attacks. [Dila813 to Dr. Thorne]

You have declared by your attempt to redefine this word as against him and are partners with the deceiver. I am not a Mormon, I think the religion is bogus, but this attack by twisting the meaning of words is evil in the same way that the devil likes to twist words and meanings. Be gone [Dila813 to Colofornian less than 2.5 hours previous to post #101]

Could the real Dila813 please assume the witness stand?

182 posted on 09/06/2011 12:12:31 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: dila813; Dr. Thorne

You don’t convert someone with hate and personal attacks.

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Telling someone the truth about their religion isn’t ‘hate’ or personal attacks, although every Mormon I know takes it that way if you even slightly disagree with them or hint that they might not be Christians.

FWIW, these kinds of ‘attacks’ and exposes of Mormonism is EXACTLY what got me and many other Ex-Mormons I know out of Mormonism and into the arms of the Biblical Jesus.

Don’t knock it unless you’ve been on both sides. The first part of getting someone out of Mormonism is getting them mad enough to try to prove you wrong. Then they can start to think for themselves.


324 posted on 09/06/2011 6:29:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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