Posted on 09/06/2011 8:15:09 AM PDT by Colofornian
Titus 1:10-13 “For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain. One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.” This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith.”
Acts 20:28-31 “Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard!”
Because someone who believes in Jesus Christ would have immediately accepted the observation that Jesus wouldn’t have engaged in this forum.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The pharisees said somethiong like that about jesus ...
It went...
When the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would know who is touching him and what kind of woman she is—that she is a sinner.” Luke 7:30
When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with the “sinners” and tax collectors, they asked his disciples: “Why does he eat with tax collectors and ‘sinners’?” Mark 2:16
Because someone who believes in Jesus Christ would have immediately accepted the observation that Jesus wouldn’t have engaged in this forum.
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“Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked dila813
Then stop presuming that people are motivated by "hate"; 'cause when you do, "that is an evil practice...you are judg"[ing] them as hateful (& executing them for it)...and guess what? (It "isn't very Jesus Like.")
Time to start abiding by your own words and start practicing what you preach.
Stop accusing others of presuming/assuming while doing that all thru this thread.
Stop accusing others of being judgmental while you've consistently judged others on this thread.
celibate with glee
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was that meant as a slur against the LORD Jesus Christ and Christian belief ???
and No He was not married or a polygamist...
and he had no children
and Joey Smith the founder of Mormonism was NOT a direct descendant of the LORD Jesus Christ...
Just as I have told everyone to ask Glen Beck.
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Have you told Glenn Beck to ask Jimmy Hoffa Jr if he was drunk or not ???
Or is it OK with you for Beck to judge other people ???
Have you rushed to the defense of Hoffa ???
or must he break down and cry first ???
Yet when many on this thread have questioned whether Beck is truly a Christian based upon his many statements you have rebuked me and others. Why won't you grant us the same freedom you grant yourself to question other’s faith?
Doesn't that seem like hypocrisy?
And it was not mind reading (making it personal) since it expressed the poster's mind and not yours. However, when personal remarks dominate a thread it is "making it personal" by making the thread "about" an individual Freeper.
This thread has become "about" you, and I have let it continue because you are new to the Religion Forum and evidently have a few questions or issues about the modding of it.
But enough is enough.
All of you: it is time to return to the issues and drop the ad hominems.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
See post 588.
What many people fail to understand is that Mormonism is a religion. It is not the same religion as Christianity, not even close, yet they say they’re Christians.
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OK time for this again...
Mormonism is NOT Christianity
The foul practice of polygamy is not part of Christianity..
Idol worship of the pagan Joey Smith is not part of Christianity...
Multiple gods are not part of Christianity...
A non-virgin Mary is not part of Christianity...
Only males going to Heaven is not part of Christianity...
Males becoming gods is not part of Christianity...
Males ruling their own planet is not part of Christianity...
A priesthood system as practiced by the mormons is not part of Christianity
Women as sex slaves in a harem is not part of Christianity...
Women having babies forever is not part of Christianity...
Women being called from their graves by husbands who decide the woman’s fate is not part of Christianity...
Degradation of women through adultery and so called “celestial marriage” is not part of Christianity...
Three levels of Heaven is not part of Christianity
Sex in Heaven is not part of Christianity…
Men marrying their mother-in-law is not part of Christianity…
Men marrying their daughter-in-law is not part of Christianity..
Men marrying their wife’s sister is not part of Christianity
Special underwear are not part of Christianity..
Special ceremony clothes are not part of Christianity…
Joey Smith deciding who gets into Heaven is not part of Christianity...
Joey Smith as the savior is not part of Christianity...
Recognizing and worshipping the blasphemous Joey Smith is not part of Christianty...
Dead dunking is not part of Christianity...
The idol on top of the mormon temples is not part of Christianity...
The mormon temples are not part of Christianity...
Gathering in “zion” whether its in Missouri or Utah is not part of Christianity...
The return of the mormon jesus to Missouri is not part of Christianity...
The belief that the garden of Eden was in Missouri is not part of Christianity...
People living on the sun and the moon is not part of Christianity...
The belief that the mormon jesus visited Central America is not part of Christianity...
Freemasonry as practiced by the mormons is not part of Christianity...
Endowments are not part of Christianity...
The book of mormon is not part of Christianity
The tall tales of Joey Smith are not part of Christianity
Mythical ancient civilizations in Central America are not part of Christianity
The so called “visions” and false prophecies of Joey Smith are not part of Christianity
The mormon Mary having sex with one of the mormon gods is not part of Christianity...
The absence of a cross on a building is not part of Christianity
Pagan and Freemasonry symbols on a building are not part of Christianity
“Going through the temple” is not part of Christianity...
The denial that Jesus is God is not part of Christianity...
The denial that the Holy Ghost is God is not part of Christianity...
The denial of the Trinity is not part of Christianity...
The belief that the mormon god was once a man is not part of Christianity
The belief that the mormon god was a polygamist is not part of Christianity...
The belief that the mormon jesus was a polygamist is not part of Christianity...
The belief that monogamy...one man, one woman...is prostitution is not part of Christianity...
The belief that David went to Hell forever is not part of Christianity.
The belief that David will not be in Heaven is not part of Christianity….
Paying tithes to be saved is not part of Christianity......
Works to be saved is not part of Christianity
Being a member of the mormon corporation is not part of Christianity...
The mormon jesus sweating in the Garden of Gethsemane for “atonement” is not part of Christianity...
The insulting, degrading, blasphemous false religion of mormonism is not Christianity...
I have never stopped MORMONS from practicing their own religion..
They are free to do so...
I do however state once again for the record...
Mormonism is NOT Christianity...
And if that’s considered “nasty” and “insulting” to Glenn Beck and the other Mormons, I’m in good company...
Because I’m just agreeing with the God of the Christian Bible...
King James Version included...
Heads up Els
The number is fast approaching
:)
This is discernment, which the Bible says we are called to exercise. What? Have you been failing to exercise Biblical discernment? Have you been disobeying our Lord?
If you have a pre-teen or teen daughter asking about a couple living together next door, you have a couple of choices: (a) You could inject morality into the discussion -- knowing that you're not just talking about this couple but also choices your daughter will one day make; or (b) You could avoid making any "moral judgment" on the couple because you perceive that as "judging" another & that's "God's" role to do that.
I would say those parents who practice (b) vs. (a) tend to -- over the long run -- have more children who wind up cohabitating than the (a) category. Why? Because they failed to practice discernment and export it to the next generation. Instead, they opted for a licentious live-and-let live lifestyle...at least in how they parented their kids.
Now, I'm not saying the above dynamics may not also fall into stereotyping. But there's an interesting thing about many stereotypes: They often are either true, mostly true, or partially true.
If you find out somebody lives in a certain neighborhood, yes, you may not actually know if they live in a mansion or a shack. But if they live in a neighborhood that's beyond an upscale neighborhood in an elite area, guess what? Your "stereotype" exercise of discernment about the material well-being of a given person is likely to be on the mark.
What you, Dila, seem to be advocating on this thread -- is that if you find out a person lives in a neighborhood full of mansions, that we are to presume this person is not wealthy because that would be "judging."
People make stereotypes about others all the time:
About die-hard sports fans
About avid Obama supporters
About gun supporters
About pacifists and war protesters
We all operate under many "identities" fused into one:
We are parents, children, siblings, employees/employers, fraternal club members, sports fans of certain teams, community & neighborhood residents, with family school ties, cause catalysts, political party members, FREEPERS & church members.
Each of those identities elicits certain characteristics. Some university sports teams, for example, if their state has no pro teams, tend to elicit an almost extreme fanatical following. While those fans are present with all/most university teams in that same sport, frankly some cultures produce more of an almost "cult-like" following than others. That is an observation that is generally true of certain cultures -- but obviously not necessarily true of everyone living in that culture.
So stereotyping can devolve into overgeneralizations that are not true of all. Indeed, assumptions that are true for many, but not for all.
Your assumptions, Dila, work the other way. Your assumptions are tantamount to assuming/presuming that somebody living in one of those non-pro-team states isn't affected by that culture. That is a way-off-the-mark assumption.
The fact is that Beck lives in a Mormon culture; he is bathed in it like most Mormons. And while it's true that Utah Mormons are even more "die-hard" in living & breathing a more concentrated culture than non-Utah Mormons, for you to presume they don't "catch" that culture is quite a presumption on your part.
I addressed this three months ago in a post. Here's what I said then:
Sorry, but if Sarah Palin became a temple Mormon...
...someone who believes they are a "god-in-embryo" enroute to becoming a full-grown god who will be worshiped and prayed to and steal glory from the One and Only true God...
...at that point in your hypothetical she would become an idolatrous glory-hound depicting a tremendous lack of discernment and galloping gullibility.
Sorry. But in your hypothetical I wouldn't vote for someone who thinks the White House is just a career stop on their way to a great White Throne to be worshiped and glorified [and competing with the One True God for such honor and praise.]
No, I told you to ask Beck directly just as I have asked of you
You presuppose Beck. You know the difference, you must stop pretending that you don’t know.
What can you expect from MORMONs?
I don’t know what you are talking about....where did Jimmy Hoffa come from?
I am talking about the electronic lynching.
We have an electronic version of people taking the corpse of a man and parading it in the streets.
Evidence WAS provided.
It was dismissed as irrelevant.
How about crankery that ISN'T obsessive?
That is what this entire thread was about, HATE ... lets get that Mormon Guy, he has got too big for his own britches.
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