Posted on 09/06/2011 8:15:09 AM PDT by Colofornian
Norm, the issue is what Christ. The Eternal Christ (Biblical) or the created chirst (lds) - they are not the same.
Just moments ago, I linked it, you can go check it out.
To be numbered amongst those in Hebrews 11
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There is no point confronting the person. What would you gain? He isn’t going to accept your authority, in fact a Mormon would immediately tell you that they have greater authority because their prophets are alive.
When I was little, they converted many Mormons on a regular basis because it is a pretty shallow religion. They didn’t do it by fighting with them, they did it by turning the cheek and showing love.
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The point is getting them to THINK FOR THEMSELVES. They are constantly taught not to.
And no, the converted people by lying and only telling a little bit of what they believe. Many converts (including me) ended up being taught one set of things before we joined and something completely different after we were in and had separated ourselves so our only social interaction was with other Mormons.
The Flock is how you are guided by the Shepherd to salvation.
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Source ???
Scripture ???
From the Christian Bible please...
Let me tell you right now, I am not a pastor, a priest, so I am not talking with any authority with in the church.
That said, I think that in order to be a false preacher, you can’t just casually discuss these topics and be declared a preacher false or otherwise.
You have to establish your authority ... as in he is directing you to learn certain things and do things as he tells you. Just as explained in Matt 23.
Who wants FLIES???
Jesus is pointing out the woman's sin: how 'loving' is that?
4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.
7 When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)
9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.[a])
10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”
11 “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”
13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”
16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”
17 “I have no husband,” she replied.
Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”
19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”
21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”27 Just then his disciples returned and were surprised to find him talking with a woman. But no one asked, “What do you want?” or “Why are you talking with her?”
28 Then, leaving her water jar, the woman went back to the town and said to the people, 29 “Come, see a man who told me everything I ever did. Could this be the Messiah?” 30 They came out of the town and made their way toward him.
Ah...
I see what church now.
I hope you are no ashamed to post verses from the Christian Bible ...
The LORD Jesus Christ said that if someone is ashamed of Him He will be ashamed of that person...
“If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.” Luke 9:26
There you go yet again.
Show us the condemnation you see so plainly.
The Eternal Christ of the Bible.
I think you meant conFRONtational...
Glen Beck is a TBM (true believing Mormon). No, to condemn them is to get them to see what is wrong and show others what is wrong.
There is a campaign that did what you suggested, it failed miserably because it didn’t reach any Mormons or get them to leave and come to Christ, instead it reinforced the their belief that they were Christians. It was a campaign where Christians hugged Mormons and agreed with a verse in the Book of Mormon.
I don’t just do this on FR. I worked for a ministry to the LDS (volunteer). I have done this for almost 20 years now. I’ve met with them in Provo and Salt Lake. While your idea SOUNDS nice, it doesn’t reach them. You have to first get them to see the errors of Mormonsim before you can ‘love them to the Lord’. It is a 2 step process and the first step (extraction) is hard and brutal - but that is the only way to break through the brainwashing.
“Washing their feet” just reinforces their deception. Getting someone out of a cult is far different than reaching non-believers or agnostics.
touche
I take it then take you have no Temple Recommend?
I take it then that you have no Temple Recommend?
Then Norm He can not be the christ of lds. lds teach a created christ, but you knew that I am sure. If your Salvation rests in the Eternal Christ why are you lds?
Sorry; but MORMONism has redefined so many CHRISTIAN words and concepts that one CANNOT have a 'conversation' with them.
It worked very well outside Utah
I will say, that one of the Mormon’s said to use that you wouldn’t even convert someone in Utah because their entire family is there and the community doesn’t look kindly on people that convert.
Outside my experience.
I wish you luck. I think you are dealing with a bulwark community that is wrapped around this religion/cult very tightly.
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