Glenn Beck's "pure personal truth," Part 1 [Real Mormonism]

RenewAmerica.com ^ | Sept. 6, 2011 | Marsha West

[Tennessee Nana]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

All that heavy rain all day yesterday and the flooding

and the power going off and on all night

My computer is cranky...

Needs more coffee...

[Elsie]

Hi there, II!

Since we’re up to 116 already; your ‘alert’ is a little late.

Join in the discussion if you wish.

We ANTIs are HATERs and JUDGERs so far...

[dila813]

Yes, fear Jesus, but don’t fear the man who tries to usurp the authority of Jesus and Lord for themselves through the bending of the word of God.

The Lord is my Shepard....

[Elsie]

He literally spoke that he was a Christian and if you do not believe Mormons are Christians then you do not have to listen to him.

Sorry; but we are GOING to do a LOT more than THAT!

When someone trys to pass themselves off as something they are not; well... I think there may even be LAWS against it!

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Did you know John Kerry was in Vietnam?

Did you know that Romney was a REPUBLICAN?

[Tax Government]

Actually, I’m not trying to save you; that’s a joke. Peace.

[dila813]

Go ask him “Glen, are you trying to become a Mormon Prophet?”

Instead of speculating breathlessly..... go ask him

[Elsie]

Ok, you have declared Glen Beck Guilty and sentenced him to hell..without even talking to him

Oh??

What reply number was THAT?

[Elsie]

Don’t bother trying to convince me, I am not prepared to sit in judgment of anyone.

Alrighty then!!

[Elsie]

Bozo!

You are supPOSED to defend yourself, not question the ACCUSER!

[Elsie]

I bet she is attacking about 25% of the people calling themselves Christian on this thread.

Ah!

WE have a gambler in our midst!

[Elsie]

LOL!

(Actually a good, belly rumbling chuckle... ;^)

[Tennessee Nana]

Yes, fear Jesus, but don’t fear the man who tries to usurp the authority of Jesus and Lord for themselves through the bending of the word of God.
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Personally I’m not concerned about Joey Smith, Brigham Young nor Tommy Monson...

Joey Smith is too busy screaminng in Hell to stand at the gate of Heaven and judge people...

I hope you dont revere or believe them either...

[svcw]

Single issue - huh? What one issue would that be?

[Elsie]

Yes, fear Jesus, but don’t fear the man who tries to usurp the authority of Jesus and Lord for themselves through the bending of the word of God.

Uh...

You've jumped over #142.

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Oh well; here is some documented BENDING for the lurkers to peruse...

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Let's compare KJV to JST:

King James Version John 1 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2. The same was in the beginning with God. 3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13. Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. 19. And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? 20. And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. 21. And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 22. Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 23. He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. 24. And they which were sent were of the Pharisees. 25. And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? 26. John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; 27. He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose. 28. These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing. 29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 30. This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31. And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32. And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

Joseph Smith Translation John 1 1 In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made which was made. 4 In him was the gospel, and the gospel was the life, and the life was the light of men; 5 And the light shineth in the world, and the world perceiveth it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came into the world for a witness, to bear witness of the light, to bear record of the gospel through the Son, unto all, that through him men might believe. 8 He was not that light, but came to bear witness of that light, 9 Which was the true light, which lighteth every man who cometh into the world; 10 Even the Son of God. He who was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God; only to them who believe on his name. 13 He was born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the same word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John bear witness of him, and cried, saying, This is he of whom I spake; He who cometh after me, is preferred before me; for he was before me. 16 For in the beginning was the Word, even the Son, who is made flesh, and sent unto us by the will of the Father, And as many as believe on his name shall receive of his fulness. And of his fullness have all we received, even immortality and eternal life, through his grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses, but life and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 For the law was after a carnal commandment, to the administration of death; but the gospel was after the power of an endless life, through Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father. 19 And no man hath seen God at any time, except he hath borne record of the Son; for except it is through him no man can be saved. 20 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem, to ask him; Who art thou? 21 And he confessed, and denied not that he was Elias; but confessed, saying; I am not the Christ. 22 And they asked him, saying; How then art thou Elias? And he said, I am not that Elias who was to restore all things. And they asked him, saying, Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 23 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 24 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as saith the prophet Esaias. 25 And they who were sent were of the Pharisees. 26 And they asked him, and said unto him; Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not the Christ, nor Elias who was to restore all things, neither that prophet? 27 John answered them, saying; I baptize with water, but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; 28 He it is of whom I bear record. He is that prophet, even Elias, who, coming after me, is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose, or whose place I am not able to fill; for he shall baptize, not only with water, but with fire, and with the Holy Ghost. 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and said; Behold the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sin of the world! 30 And John bare record of him unto the people, saying, This is he of whom I said; After me cometh a man who is preferred before me; for he was before me, and I knew him, and that he should be made manifest to Israel; therefore am I come baptizing with water. 31 And John bare record, saying; When he was baptized of me, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 32 And I knew him; for he who sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me; Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he who baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 33 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. 34 These things were done in Bethabara, beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.

[Elsie]

Go ask him “Glen, are you trying to become a Mormon Prophet?”

Instead of speculating breathlessly..... go ask him

It's YOUR strawman; YOU do the asking.

[Elsie]

Go ask him “Glen, are you trying to become a Mormon Prophet?”

One doesn't TRY; one is CALLED.

[Elsie]

Can’t leave the TarBaby alone: just like me...

[Colofornian]

Instead of attacking the guy personally, maybe you should be trying to convert him to your church? [dila813]

Like you are? [Elsie]

LOL

[Tennessee Nana]

Instead of attacking the guy personally, maybe you should be trying to convert him to your church? [dila813]

Like you are? [Elsie]

LOL (Colofornian)
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How ???

The guy cries like a girl if a Christian talks to him...

[dila813]

You know very well, you are either with God or against God, there isn’t any middle ground.

My conflict is centered around this,
1. By condemning the man you are judging him, I would have no problem condemning every action offensive to God the man undertakes but won’t judge him.
2. So if you judge him, you are by definition against God, if you are against God, you end up in Hell
3. If you say he isn’t following God, not only do you judge him, you are saying he is against God, which means he is going to hell by your judgment, that is how you are condemning him to hell.

You need to understand this basic religious concept regarding Most Traditions of Christian Denominations.

If this thread had been purely centered on Mormonistic practices etc.. I would have been shouting Amen to most of it. As soon as you introduce a person’s name, I say it isn’t consistent with my attempts to mimic what I think Jesus would do.

All this applies to every other form of sin:
1. Homosexual Releationships
2. Theft
3. Murder ....etc

I have sinned and I asked the Lord for forgiveness. I ask that people not condemn me for being a sinner so that I may seek salvation though Jesus. I was blessed by others in this way, and do the same for others as he has done for me. Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin, Bring the Sinner to God.

If you don’t believe this ... consult with your pastor for more information and guidance.