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To: smvoice

I’ll cut to the chase:

It’s not Scriptural to read Scripture the way, say, dispensationalists do.

It’s not Scriptural (if Maccabees is in your Bible) to think you can’t or ought not pray for the dead.

It’s not Scriptural to think that we and the blessed dead are not in the koinonia of the Spirit one in Christ through whom all prayers are heard.

Are you edified? Neither am I edified by the return at least every two months of this subject, this flogging.


4,350 posted on 09/20/2011 8:15:40 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Edified? Hardly. Nor am I edified by someone leaving a lingering post to pray to a dead saint. And assuming everyone will be in agreement.

Let me cut to the chase:

If you do not know where you are in God's word, you will end up praying to dead saints to help you. You will end up praying to Mary to interceded on your behalf. You will end up believing every wind of doctrine that blows in the wind, including the idea that you cannot know what God has said in His Word. And must depend on others to explain it to you.

The "flogging" will continue as long as longsuffering and doctrine continue for reproof and rebuke and exhortation.

4,352 posted on 09/20/2011 8:25:28 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Mad Dawg; smvoice

Yes, the horse has been dead for years on these threads.

If we were to try to discuss and debate the issue, I believe it would reduce to two aspects: intercessory prayer and the Communion of Saints. These could be argued on scriptural grounds, exegesis.

I believe it is likely agreement would be found on intercessory prayer. I’m not certain all would agree, we see some posts which seem to deny its efficacy or propriety.

I think the area of greatest disagreement would be on the Communion of Saints. I believe its original meaning has been lost in some areas of Protestantism.

I don’t know when this occurred; I would be interested to learn when it occurred and why.

That is if we wished to discuss instead of flog.


4,353 posted on 09/20/2011 8:28:37 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Neither am I edified by the return at least every two months of this subject, this flogging.

And yet; so many ARE!


4,371 posted on 09/20/2011 10:03:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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