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To: metmom
"When you look at how the doctrines about Mary have changed/evolved over the years,

Some dogma and doctrines are explicit, stated directly and repeatedly in Scripture and others, such as the Trinity, Sola Scriptura, and the Assumption are determined implicitly by looking at the body of the Revealed Word, as Pope Benedict XVI puts it ""a totality in which the individual elements enlighten each other and open the way to understanding". Rancor aside, I would like to understand how you determine which implicit doctrines you choose to support and which you reject?

2,354 posted on 09/09/2011 12:03:51 PM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: Natural Law
If it agrees with anything Catholic, it's rejected. Simple. If it disagrees with anything Catholic, and especially if it offends a Catholic or could offend a Catholic, it's accepted. It's that shallow.
2,355 posted on 09/09/2011 12:18:59 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Natural Law; metmom
>>Scripture and others, such as the Trinity, Sola Scriptura, and the Assumption are determined implicitly by looking at the body of the Revealed Word<<

Sola Scriptura

Luke tells us that even if Paul and Silas are the teachers we should search the scriptures “whether those things were so”.

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.<<

Paul himself says not to think of men above what is written. If some man says something is so we need to check it with what is written.

I Corinthians 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

The Trinity.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Now for the bodily assumption of Mary. I can’t seem to find any scripture to prove that. I’m sure you would be so kind as to point to book, chapter and verse as I have done with the other two.

2,363 posted on 09/09/2011 1:25:36 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Natural Law
Some dogma and doctrines are explicit, stated directly and repeatedly in Scripture and others, such as the Trinity, Sola Scriptura, and the Assumption are determined implicitly by looking at the body of the Revealed Word, as Pope Benedict XVI puts it ""a totality in which the individual elements enlighten each other and open the way to understanding

Hopefully one of these times your pope will get it right...

the Trinity and Sola Scriptura are explicitly found in the scripture by looking at the body of the Revealed word, a totality in which the individual elements enlighten each other and open the way to understanding...

This so-called Assumption can not be found anywhere in the scriptures, explicitly or implicitly...

Your pope knows you guys won't check the scriptures to see if he is telling you the truth...

2,384 posted on 09/09/2011 3:14:02 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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