Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow
Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.
But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.
When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress, said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.
But someone said to me, Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harborthis might be a news story.
Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.
But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.
I just felt it was ritual and dogma, Ellison said. Of course, thats not the reality of Catholicism, but its the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.
It wasnt until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, looking for other things.
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Only your interpretation of it.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Nothing like a little truth to disarm the lies.
Ping to post 937
Satan's first recorded tactic is to challenge God's word.
Only by young earth nut jobs.
Again in replacementarian manner
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Ad hominem attack never address the issues.
Satan's first recorded tactic is to challenge God's word.
Amen Sister !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Not looking for an argument, but someone earlier said that if Mary had said "no" to God's request for her to bear Jesus we would not have had a redeemer. Do you hold to this as well? I believe that, under the doctrine of free will, if Mary had said "no", we would have never heard of her and God would have chosen another. Perhaps we would be calling the mother of Christ, Hannah or Judith or Divsha? Regardless, God WOULD have provided the savior for us. Do you agree?
Why leave out the rest??? Including the rest is a WORSE indictment than the shorter version. Do you think you have proven your point by citing the entire Catechism paragraphs listed? It proves nothing of what you have been saying the Church teaches. In fact, it proves the very opposite. It proves that Mary, rather it be by supernatural powers or whatever, was considered PERFECTLY SINLESS HER ENTIRE LIFE. Which is exactly what the problem is. If she was, she had no need of a Savior. Period. How the Catholic Church can teach she was perfectly sinless her entire life, and Christ was her Savior from sin, is one of the most ironic teachings to come down the pike. And that's saying a lot. And I know, I have just joined your list of "do not reply to" posters. Consider it done. But your point was lost trying to make your point. It cannot be both ways. Unless there are a boatload of pawns ready to accept anything in order to defend the indefensible.
Only your interpretation of it.
Most use Grammatical-historical-literal exegesis. Most followers of the Jewish Messiah do not use Allegory.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
#752
I do agree. God chose to send His Son to be the Lamb, to die and to rise again for our salvation. Had it been someone of any other name, she would still be as honored.
Actually, Catholics and Lutherans and Presbyterians and Pentecostals and Baptists are Christians. Your group isn’t and we know that — however much it tries to play taqqiyah, it fails
INDEED.
And I think it’s largely because of man’s carnal compulsions to make groups, leaders, parochial ideologies into something to idolize.
It seems to me that only a handful of RC’s on FR have anything CLOSE to a Biblical understanding of GOD’S ATTITUDE toward any hint of idolatry at such levels.
Yet a lot of Proddys don’t realize a similar idolizing of their organizations, structures, leaders etc. It’s just that the RC’s have been at it longer and have gilded it in more perverse and intense organizationally sanctioned hogwash.
It’s fascinating to me . . .
So many Christians seem utterly convinced that Jews will become Christianized in all ways.
The Biblical truth indicates, to me, that Christians will become essentially Jewicized in the Millenial reign of Christ.
Certainly we’ll be keeping the Jewish feasts and at least some of the ceremonies.
Is my perspective askew from Biblical realities?
Amen Brother !shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Amen. God promised them they would be a kingdom of priests and through them would all nations of the earth be blessed. And so it will be during the Millenial reign of Christ. Israel will indeed be a kingdom of priests.
The Jewish Messiah has not yet arrived. It is the Christian Messiah that has. That aside, your math is as bad as your history, ancient languages, and theology. (Where did you go to school?). Do the math. The Catholic Church constitutes the largest following of the Christian Messiah and it does not adhere to your method of eisegesis.
You are right on !shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiachIt is the replacementarian lens started at Nicea in 325CE.
It proves that Mary, rather it be by supernatural powers or whatever,
Not whatever, by the Grace of God.
Preserved, kept from, as in without it she would not have been sinless.
I don’t understand the objection or why it is worse. Do we not say that our sins are forgiven, forgotten as if they never happened by the Grace of God? Do we not strive to “sin no more” as Jesus told us and pray for the grace to be “perfect even as My Father in Heaven is perfect”?
Mary needed a Savior and Jesus is that Savior, she was saved from sin when she was created in her mother’s womb and by God’s Grace she remained without sin.
Just as we are saved from sin by Jesus’ sacrifice, so too was Mary but as it says, in a singular and unique way. And just as sin holds no power over us because of Jesus’ death and resurrection, it held no power over Mary from the time of her conception.
Hers is the same Savior through the same sacrifice and victory over death, just received in anticipation of her cooperation with God to bring the Messiah to His children.
It’s really not that hard to understand or accept.
As Uriel(sorry easiest way for me to type it) said here, God is the Creator of the time and space continuum, the entire universe. He is outside time and so is Jesus and not bound by it as we are. Therefore, if He chose to do for Mary what He does for us all when she was conceived, He can certainly do so.
There ya go with you Churchianity again. Quoting the scripture of the Roman Catholic Church also known as their catechism. See what I mean about not using scripture?
What does the number of years since Adam have to do with the age of the earth? I said nothing about the age of the earth. Its not difficult to follow the genealogy in scripture to determine how many years it has been since Adam. Are you totally bereft of the study of scripture?
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