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My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim
CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow

Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.

But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.

“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.

“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”

Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.

But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.

“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”

It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: blackmuslims; islam; keithellison; muslim
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To: Judith Anne

All hospital related chaplains get a list daily who is of their faith and go directly to them. All private ministers - the patients own minister - goes in like any family member unless it’s critical care - then they check in with the clerk at the front desk in the main lobby - as only a limited amount of people are allowed in that section and the family makes sure he is accommodated with an opening to the patient.


441 posted on 09/04/2011 10:14:39 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: boatbums
You know, have your "special" threads, but drop trying to make the Religion Forum a Catholics Only place. We have every right to post our thoughts and every right to defend against false claims, false doctrine and any other misunderstandings of the Christian faith. It is OUR faith,

as well. You really don't do yourselves any favors by complaining about Anti-Catholic bigotry because bigotry can go both ways. It means "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry). Fits some of you guys, too, doesn't it?

442 posted on 09/04/2011 10:15:26 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: presently no screen name

Not only critical care. See what I mean? It would take forever to teach you anything.


443 posted on 09/04/2011 10:17:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: metmom
The thousands of copies of manuscripts in Greek were not the work of monks in the Middle Ages but of professional copyists, a practice that existed until printing came along.

Think of the how various congregations of the church would copy and pass on important letters like those from Paul.

What the monks did do was make the hugely elaborate copies for churches and their own libraries, not of much use to the average person.

444 posted on 09/04/2011 10:24:17 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Jvette
...it is only my love for Him and for His Church that would draw me in and force my participation here.

Seems to me Jobs associates said similar to him as they attempted to offer their counsel...and we know how that ended. Elihu:...."I too will have my say, I too will tell what I know...for I am full of words.....Inside I am like bottled up wine, like new wineskins ready to burst...I must speak and find relief...I must open my lips and reply." "Listen to my words...pay attention to everything I say....I am about to open my mouth...my words are on the tip of my tongue..." Job 32 and 33.

445 posted on 09/04/2011 10:25:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: boatbums

Sorry, my reply got cut off. I wanted to say that it is not Catholics that start these mammoth arguments on the open threads. It is mostly inflammatory remarks from a few anti-Catholic posters who get them going. When Catholics try to answer a question we get told that we use a daffyntionary or some such, or that it’s not Biblical, and when we answer those stupid arguments, there’s a dogpile. The open threads are all a mess, and I’m particularly tired of some specific statements that some of you repeat ad nauseum.

You may not have recently fallen off a turnip truck, but there appear to be hay seeds in your hair.


446 posted on 09/04/2011 10:27:42 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: boatbums
"Are you a Catholic?", "Get off this thread!",

LOL! Exactly! I said "No, I'm a Christian' and was told to get off the thread. I, like others, went on accidentally and immediately attacked. Now they claim to be Christians? And show respect to others and definitely Muslims? And yet some say 'come home'! LOL! What a confused group - they don't know what they want - other than being in control.
447 posted on 09/04/2011 10:30:51 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: boatbums

You know, have your “special” threads, but drop trying to make the Religion Forum a Catholics Only place. We have every right to post our thoughts and every right to defend against false claims, false doctrine and any other misunderstandings of the Christian faith. It is OUR faith,

You certainly have your rights, but it appears clear that EVERYTHING CATHOLIC IS “False claims, false doctrine, and other misunderstandings of the Christian faith.” We disagree. You will not permit that, without attempting to draw blood, it appears. You will not allow Catholics to have our faith without pushing yours in our faces. All in Christ’s Holy Name, of course.


448 posted on 09/04/2011 10:33:56 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: presently no screen name
"Are you a Catholic?", "Get off this thread!",

The remarks of non-Catholics and anti-Catholics on Caucus threads are often very offensive, and you all appear proud of that, as though you were being nailed to a cross for deliberately violating RF rules.

449 posted on 09/04/2011 10:36:31 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

I NEVER said anything OFFENSE! I was interested in the article - whatever it was at the time - a few years back - and immediately attacked. Many experienced the same thing so don’t try to whitewash it. Another freeper experienced it the same time as I did and then we freeped - laughing ourselves silly at the reaction of Catholics about Christians accidentally going on their ‘closed door’ thread. It’s still funny to me because catholicism has nothing any Christian wants! Keep the door locked and shades pulled. Just by the reaction alone - who needs such venom! “ Can’t you read? What’s wrong with you? We are reporting you!!” LOL! Long after we left the thread. Way too funny.

And the ‘victim’ mentality is solely a catholic trait!! That’s WIDELY KNOWN - one reason they need a ‘caucus’! And they are STILL whining! LOL!!


450 posted on 09/04/2011 10:51:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I’m not going to whitewash anything. If you aren’t Catholic, stay off the Catholic Caucus threads. You are not invited. Any doubts, check with the RM. If your skin is too thin to understand that non-Catholics are NOT WELCOME on Catholic Caucus threads, then you are too immature for the Religion Forum.


451 posted on 09/04/2011 10:55:48 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: presently no screen name

You sound like you are nourishing your own little victim mentality there, poor thing.


452 posted on 09/04/2011 10:57:29 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
false claims, false doctrine and any other misunderstandings of the Christian faith.

Christian faith? That's God's Word, ALONE! Followers of JESUS CHRIST ALONE! Either one believes God's Word is THE FINAL AUTHORITY or they don't. You can't have it both ways. You can try but God is VERY CLEAR about man made teachings/doctrine and that it voids His Word. But when does the RCC OBEY HIS WORD? Never with their man made doctrines/traditions - 'I'm ALL yours Mary' and plan of salvation that doesn't speak the name of JESUS and which includes Muslims! And it doesn't stop there - what a blasphemous mess!

It's ALL about JESUS! Thank You, JESUS The WORD and Savior!
453 posted on 09/04/2011 11:05:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Judith Anne
There's no hay on turnip trucks!

I have tried about ten times on this thread to get the discussion back to the very important subject of a Nation of Islam Muslim serving in the United States Congress right now! Not having much luck because it seems the Saturday nite at the CvP Warzone has been extended. I get tired of the same arguments, too. What do you suggest we do about it?

454 posted on 09/04/2011 11:12:06 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Judith Anne
If you aren’t Catholic, stay off the Catholic Caucus threads.

You might want to read slowly first. I said years back - when I didn't frequent the religion forum. Why did you overlook what I posted - 'years back'? So you have another opportunity for a 'catholic rant'?

Like I said - still whining. LOL! Where's all that respect you were speaking about earlier? Oh, now I remember that was for Muslims. LOL! Goes right along with the RCC plan of salvation.
455 posted on 09/04/2011 11:15:47 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Judith Anne

LOL! I’m blessed blessed blessed! I’m blessed going in and blessed going out! I’m blessed with eternal life. It grates on the anti Word crowd but that’s the price of not believing..

GOD’S WORD is The Final Authority! Good night!


456 posted on 09/04/2011 11:20:46 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Judith Anne
You certainly have your rights, but it appears clear that EVERYTHING CATHOLIC IS “False claims, false doctrine, and other misunderstandings of the Christian faith.” We disagree. You will not permit that, without attempting to draw blood, it appears. You will not allow Catholics to have our faith without pushing yours in our faces. All in Christ’s Holy Name, of course.

I said, "It is our faith, too.", I was not saying it was exclusive. I hope that was not your intention to misconstrue what I said. I, for the record, do NOT "draw blood" and I have never tried to push my faith into your face and I am more than happy to hear opposing views and discuss them respectfully. I have received quite a bit of that unkind of behavior but I don't do tit-for-tat. I have many times stated where I agree with Catholicism. So you may have someone else in mind with this one-size-fits-all diatribe.

I really do hope you have a great Labor Day!

457 posted on 09/04/2011 11:21:28 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

I’m open to suggestion.


458 posted on 09/04/2011 11:24:54 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: boatbums

Thanks. My mom just had her 80th bitrthday party, and there was a huge reunion over the weekend, and big bbq today. It was great!.

Tomorrow, have to do laundry. Otherwise, it should be nice.


459 posted on 09/04/2011 11:27:25 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: boatbums

PS, I certainly did have someone else in mind.


460 posted on 09/04/2011 11:29:15 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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