To: Cronos
>>He never said that they were saved by their own actions, nor that they deserved it.<<
Any contention that salvation is somehow dependent on what man does is tantamount to taking credit. >>we just gotta hold on<<
But we wouldnt even be able to do that if not for the gift of faith and belief. Did you not see the Greek word that has been translated draw? Re read my post describing that it means to drag as a net is dragged.
To: CynicalBear
Under double predestination, how does any individual have any responsibility for his choices and actions?
308 posted on
08/30/2011 10:03:51 AM PDT by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: CynicalBear; Mr Rogers
But Salvation is not dependent on what man does -- even the "we just gotta hold on" is us powered by God's grace. We make the decision to accept God's grace. That is not a "work of law", but is an acceptance, a true sign of faith in God's grace as God's grace alone is what saves/saved/continues to save us
We all agree that we can DO this "holding on" because of God's grace.
329 posted on
08/30/2011 8:34:19 PM PDT by
Cronos
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