[guitarplayer1953]

Who are you to say what gifts God has given to some and not to others? Do you have the gift of intersession? The gift of discernment? Whoa those gifts are not listed in the Corint 1 gifts. So who's to say you have them Quix?

[Rocky]

To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits;

1 Cor 12:10 (KJV)

I don't much like these discussions, but I happened to see your comment (#49) and noticed that you unfortunately picked discernment as a gift not included in the list in 1 Cor. As can be seen from the above quote, it is indeed included.

[Quix]

Where did I declare that XYZ person had this or that gift and WUV person did not have that gift?

In terms of my own giftings, I’m learning to not even acknowledge the truth about such things on FR.

I was blessed with a very anointed fellow from OKLAHOMA this week . . . way above average on humility as well as anointing and giftings in a list of ways. I got to spend probably 9 or more hours with him Thursday.

God has confirmed my walk with Him in a list of ways and again recently. His confirmation is sufficient.

Others, if they are determined to get wound up about such . . . can go . . . chase a duck, as mother used to say.

[boatbums]

Who are you to say what gifts God has given to some and not to others? Do you have the gift of intersession? The gift of discernment? Whoa those gifts are not listed in the Corint 1 gifts. So who's to say you have them Quix?

I believe you owe Quix an apology. He was not the one to say what you think, but he only included what OpusatFR said from post #40 and then responded to him, here is OpusatFR's post:

To: Quix

“Even the profession’s own research has shown that a LOT of laymen, grandparents, etc. are great at helping others through emotional, mental, relationship problems somewhat on a par with highly educated professionals.”

There is a vast difference between laymen “helping others through emotional, mental, relationship problems somewhat,” and a diagnosis of mental illness and its treatment.

You stated, “Experienced pastors, deacons, elders and even laymen and women did quite well at discerning the difference between demon possession/oppression and mental illness”

That’s absolute balony.

At any other time, I wouldn’t bother replying to one of your posts. However, the idea that one can determine demon possession from mental illness simply from “discernment” by a layman needs to be trashed.

There is enough suffering from mental illness, especially untreated mental illness caused by biological problems without some ridiculous statement that anyone can tell who is demon possessed and who is sick.

That nasty bit of false piety and spiritual abuse had ended or so I thought.

40 posted on Friday, August 12, 2011 9:19:05 PM by OpusatFR