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Who are you to say what gifts God has given to some and not to others? Do you have the gift of intersession? The gift of discernment? Whoa those gifts are not listed in the Corint 1 gifts. So who's to say you have them Quix?

I believe you owe Quix an apology. He was not the one to say what you think, but he only included what OpusatFR said from post #40 and then responded to him, here is OpusatFR's post:

To: Quix

“Even the profession’s own research has shown that a LOT of laymen, grandparents, etc. are great at helping others through emotional, mental, relationship problems somewhat on a par with highly educated professionals.”

There is a vast difference between laymen “helping others through emotional, mental, relationship problems somewhat,” and a diagnosis of mental illness and its treatment.

You stated, “Experienced pastors, deacons, elders and even laymen and women did quite well at discerning the difference between demon possession/oppression and mental illness”

That’s absolute balony.

At any other time, I wouldn’t bother replying to one of your posts. However, the idea that one can determine demon possession from mental illness simply from “discernment” by a layman needs to be trashed.

There is enough suffering from mental illness, especially untreated mental illness caused by biological problems without some ridiculous statement that anyone can tell who is demon possessed and who is sick.

That nasty bit of false piety and spiritual abuse had ended or so I thought.

40 posted on Friday, August 12, 2011 9:19:05 PM by OpusatFR

Then an apology is in order I had not been reading any banter and then saw my name in the post to list and thought that it was an original comment. I apologize for jumping to that conclusion it was a mistake and I know I have offended Quix and ask for his forgiveness.

THANKS TONS FOR SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT.

My effort did not make it through the review process for some mysterious reason.

Sigh.

Much appreciated.