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To: Godzilla
No John, Jesus was not talking about mesoamerica, not in the slightest.

You tell me that without any authority for it other than your desire that it was not so. My authority for telling you that Jesus visited His "other sheep" in Mesoamerica are John 10:16, that had to be fulfilled somewhere, the Book of Mormon, which revealed that it was somewhere in the New World, and the findings of archaeology, which show that the only place in the New World where it could have been, considering the large population and advanced cilivization requirements of the Book of Mormon account, was Mesoamerica. There is also the witness of Neil Steede concerning the location of Hill Cumorah in Mexico, where numerous stone and obsidion weapons have been found with traces of blood embedded in them.

http://www.hillcumorahexpeditionteam.com/April12Newst05.html

That is at least greater evidence than your paltry wishing that it was not so.

196 posted on 07/27/2011 8:33:37 PM PDT by John McDonnell
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To: John McDonnell
Mexico?

I though it was New York...

Or was it the Mid West...

That hill gets around...

John, quoting Mormon Sources to support Mormon fiction and try and make it true is a tick disingenuous at best...

When real Scientist and Archaeologist start referencing the BOM maybe...

As far as authority I state this as one who knows God doesn't play tricks, and I stood in the Holy land. We can find it John. The Nephites, um no...

No desire needed, just eyes and the mind God gave me...

198 posted on 07/27/2011 8:44:35 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: John McDonnell; Godzilla

Show evidence from NON BOM believing scholars. Because I can name a few atheist archeologists who recognize the validity of Biblical Archeology.

You really gonna trust a guy who claims he met one of the 3 Nephites?


201 posted on 07/27/2011 8:53:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: John McDonnell
My authority for telling you that Jesus visited His "other sheep" in Mesoamerica are John 10:16. . .

Interesting, absolutely nothing about mesoamerica in the passage - but EVERYTHING about it being the Gentiles (vs 3-4).

and the findings of archaeology, which show that the only place in the New World where it could have been, considering the large population and advanced cilivization requirements of the Book of Mormon

The so-called findings of archaeology have already been destroyed John. The advanced civilization requirements - advanced metallurgical technology, chariots, metal swords and armor, horses, elephants, old world crop, cattle, etc. Remarkably NONE of these are present in ANY mesoamerican culture prior to the arrival of the spaniards.

There is also the witness of Neil Steede concerning the location of Hill Cumorah in Mexico, where numerous stone and obsidion weapons have been found with traces of blood embedded in them.

What an incredably stupid claim - now you are trying to tell us that the steel swords of the bom are really stone and obsidian weapons. Really, I didn't know obsidian rusts like metal John - and the blood (if there) is likely due to sacrifices - not a massive (and totally undocumented by the mayans) genocidal war.

Neil Steede

who pawned off the Ica Stone Collection as authentic - until his source started 'finding' etchings of ufo and aliens. Man, what is it about these independent mormon archaeologists always getting hooked up with ufos.

That is at least greater evidence than your paltry wishing that it was not so.

Published in the mexican equivalent of the national enquirer. Please upgrade your sources John - this isn't even a peer reviewed true scientific article. Please link me to the appropriate valid article - not faith promoting wishful thinking.

203 posted on 07/27/2011 8:54:44 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: John McDonnell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTtq62XQ4jw&feature=fvwrel

There are plenty of LdS and secular anthropologists, archaeologists and scholars in this video who disagree.


210 posted on 07/27/2011 9:12:22 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: John McDonnell
There is also the witness of Neil Steede concerning the location of Hill Cumorah in Mexico, where numerous stone and obsidion weapons have been found with traces of blood embedded in them.

 
 
 
Where's the STEEL??
 
    

213 posted on 07/28/2011 1:57:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: John McDonnell
They don’t find fine ceramic, but they find some that is crude and rustic, and we have taken some 40 pieces of hatchets that have tested positive for blood.
214 posted on 07/28/2011 2:00:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: John McDonnell
That is at least greater evidence than your paltry wishing that it was not so.

Chimera evidence of an authentic Calvinasaurus was unearthed last week in...

215 posted on 07/28/2011 2:01:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: John McDonnell
"...where numerous stone and obsidion weapons..."

Bzzzzt! Wrong!

BoM claims STEEL, not stone.

224 posted on 07/28/2011 6:53:46 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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