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To: Scanian
Mormonism apologists tell us that Mormonism does not teach that god, jesus, and the holy spirit are created beings. In the next breath they will try to eliminate the possibility of creation 'ex nihilo', leaving only--when compared with the teachings from your founders--an endless progression of created beings from which the supposed god council draws the next generations of gods ... which contradicts what God has spoken of regarding His I AM status. They imply that the universe of spiritual and nonspiritual beings is eternal but the god of Mormonism had a beginning in some distant past realm, yet they want us to be confused into believing they do not believe the god of Mormonism was a created being!

Here follow direct quotes from Mormon religion's first great liar, Joseph Smith, then the sleazy parsing of subsequent LDS leaders ... pay close attention to the parsing their peepstone liar uses with the term 'in the beginning':

In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5, 1844)

"I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? ... God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844)

"I learned a testimony concerning Abraham, and he reasoned concerning the Gods of heaven. '...Intelligences exist one above another, so that there is no end to them.' If Abraham reasoned thus--If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also. Where was there ever a son without a father? And where was there ever a father without first being a son? Whenever did a tree or anything spring into existence without a progenitor? And everything comes in this way. Paul says that which is earthly is in the likeness of that which is heavenly. Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it. I want you to pay particular attention to what I am saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before Him. As the Father had done before? He laid down His life, and took it up the same as His Father had done before. (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 373)

"We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again, He was begotten by a still more ancient Father; and so on, from generation to generation, ... we wonder in our minds, how far back the genealogy extends, and how the first world was formed, and the first father was begotten" (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p.132).


97 posted on 07/16/2011 11:00:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I used to be married to a Mormon and I’ve had enough up-close-and-personal exposure to that so-called religion to know that its public façade is nothing like the mumbo-jumbo cultic behavior that goes on in private. Calling them “Christians” is like calling the Norks “democrats” because their country’s official name is the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.”

Total hogwash. And, if the Heavenly Father is not a created being, how could he be a “glorified man?” Aren’t men the product of divine creation?

Forget about using reason with them. Mormon “theology” is a mish-mash invented by a corrupt, fallen Baptist preacher-—Sidney Rigdon-—and what he cooked up with his willing and gullible pupil, Joe Smith.

The whole thing is a scheme about sex, power, and money. A chance for men to have nearly unlimited sex, own tracts of property, and develop political power by playing the right pseudo-religious game. Their “theology” developed among Smith and Young and their “disciples” while they sat around pot-bellied stoves drinking whiskey. And, yes, they drank like fish. Joe Smith was known as the “Jolly Prophet” by his neighbors for his state of almost constant inebriation.

With the Mormons, what was good for the goose was never good for the gander. How many of todays teetotalers have any idea?


133 posted on 07/16/2011 3:25:20 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: MHGinTN
In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan ...

And it has hold of 13,000,000 suckers: so far...

403 posted on 07/18/2011 10:12:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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