Posted on 07/16/2011 7:24:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
In response to whether the public should vote for a Mormon for president, one should know what beliefs a candidate had.
Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman have Mormon roots and they have been vague about their beliefs and loyalty to the LDS church.
Mormon theology includes ideas like their priesthood brethren will become the government leaders, or future kings of the world, in a globalized theocracy, and that their male leaders will take over when a second coming of Christ occurs. They believe they are the pre-ordained leaders to rule over a coming theocratic kingdom.
Worthy Mormon males are temple attending, dressing in white with special learned handshakes, altar rituals, Masonic rites and gestures and do secretive activities different from normal society.
They believe they are the future gods of new worlds in a life after this one. They follow prophets with ever-changing doctrine and change their fictional "Book of Mormon" every time it is found to be un-politically correct.
Their women are taught they are good for breeding, to have large families.
A member of this cult is loyal to its church leaders and to whatever their modern prophets tell them is gospel, which changes at their will.
They claim to be Christian, but Mormon polytheism of many gods/goddesses in a hereafter, rituals that must be performed in their temples, garment wearing and works (not grace) that saves a person is different ideology.
It is debatable whether Mormons are Christians, and they have other scriptures special to Mormonism written by their leaders, not just the New Testament, like their Doctrine and Covenants and Book of Mormon.
To learn about them and their practices, beliefs and personal character will help us determine whether they are the future leaders of Americans. Or are they really stuck in their controversial past?
I do wish someone would have asked the religion question, because I think it would be fascinating.
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I would have too. I know there was a freeper who wrote a book on Reid and his Mormon connections, but I haven’t seen him on in awhile. Perhaps, Colo would know the title, author or freeper name.
There is also a possibility that the media was playing up the Mormon division in the race. Before the election, to make Reid not appear to conservative and after to appear that Reid won on his own. Truth is we will never know how many LDS voted for Reid. We just know he won, sadly.
What’s the point of having a religion if you don’t believe in it enough to stand up for it?
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That was my thought. One of the things that got me to start questioning Mormonism was my preparing to go on a Mormon mission.
I was taking a Mission Prep course and the first day we were given a list (Oh how I wish I had kept it) of LDS doctrines we were not to teach or discuss. These included Jesus was married and probably a polygamist, that God had a God (eternal regression), that we could become Gods ourselves, that God has at least one wife (Heavenly Mother), that Jesus would return to Missouri, among other things.
At this time I was a total believing Mormon. I couldn’t figure out why, if we were the only church who had the truth (as the LDS teach), why couldn’t we be honest and upfront about our beliefs. I asked the professor and his response startled me. He said “If we told the truth, no one would join”.
I realized shortly after that I could not serve a Mormon mission. I was not going to pay to go out for 2 years to lie to people to get them to convert. I left the church about a year later.
About lying in general about being LDS, there is this view that people will take their comments (esp about antis or in favor of Mormonism) more seriously if they pretend they are not Mormon. Also, they will lie if they feel that it will help or benefit the Mormon church.
I don’t know any Christian who will lie about their faith. I am very upfront about what I believe and my faith, I am open about it. To me, lying about your faith is denying Christ.
And Peter repented shortly after. He didn’t keep doing it to further an organization.
LOL. I guess High School politics aren’t that different from regular politics after all.
Well, rather than simply wait for the exit polls of the next election, I'm weighing in on the "religion" matter here and now...as to how much Mormon leaders will "weigh in" on a Mormon POTUS.
New thread up: CNN blog reports from anti-Mormon Bizarro-Land [Real Mormonism]
Source MM? I would like to analyze that a bit more.
Because I still am not seeing Mormons not voting for Reid.
And this thread...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2745254/posts
and this thread...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2745119/posts
and this thread...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2744258/posts
Also knew a mormon...that cussed quite often. He once told me..I was stupid to quote Jesus..and to believe like I did.
And another who called big rocks in his yard..."nigger heads". His exact words...and he was a bishop within LDS, Inc.
Had a mormon on this very thread call us ‘dilholes’. I’m sure he wasn’t thinking about pickles.
Prolly just short for Armadillo burrow!! : )
But that was not the question...where did I defend her?
Please be specific...including the specific post.
Oh, wait. There aren't any.
Sorry to bother you.
I'd be more interested in the dead LDS vote.........
I gave you the threads, which is much more sourcing than you have given in ANY of your posts.
Several posts on each of those threads, no need to clog up this thread. Interested parties can look it up and see your defense of the baby killer and an idiotic jury who failed to do its job.
Anthony is not the topic of this thread, I only brought it up and posted the threads lest anyone think you have anything of value to say.
Now, how about we get back on the topic. Mormons and how people should know LDS doctrine before voting for them.
It is also trouble-making or stalking to follow a poster around from thread to thread waving the same post at him.
Badgering a poster on the Religion Forum by serving up a litany of his posts is "making it personal."
Repeating or excerpting previous posts relevant to the issues is ok. 57 posted on Friday, July 16, 2010 7:34:35 PM by Religion Moderator
If they add voting to the temple ceremonies by proxy, will we hear about it? Or will it be to ‘sacred’ to mention?
There was no argument on the other thread, so no baiting BM. I made a statement, she asked for proof, I provided it. We are allowed to post links from one thread to another.
But in typical LDS fashion, you have taken a response out of context and applied it incorrectly.
This interesting. How will the votes be counted ?
This interesting. How will the votes be counted ?
I accept your apology for lying.
May God bless you.
Generally, I guess I’d rather have a Mormon who loves, and is committed to preserving, the Constituion than a Christian like Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton.
BTW, I am so NOT going to vote for Romney. Waiting for Sarah...
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