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To: reaganaut

Oh, what fertilizer.

I believe that it is delusional to think that you are doing God’s work while thinking that the other people are evil. Your duty? ding-dong.

If acts are not important, why are you engaged in acts against the belief of others?

I went to high school with a mass murderer, who tortured some twenty people to their death. Now you try to throw this risible argument into the mix that Acts aren’t the defining element in life? The misery he brought into the lives of hundreds of people is inexcusable; it is evil.

Do you believe that if he had accepted Christ as his savior before his execution that he would be in paradise? If so, what are they, the TEN SUGGESTIONS?

Acts matter, no matter what your theology or what religious club you claim as your own.

If you think Mormons are THE evil in this world we have a serious disagreement. I cannot imagine God, on judgement day, saying that fighting Mormonism, or Catholicism (remember the Spanish Inquisition), or Buddhism, was the great cause of a free people, while abortions, murders, theft and terrorism continue. Oh, those are acts, they don’t count.


187 posted on 07/10/2011 5:50:13 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Democrats: debt, dependence and derision)
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To: Loud Mime; Colofornian; Godzilla
I believe that it is delusional to think that you are doing God’s work while thinking that the other people are evil.

It is not delusional, it is BIBLICAL. If acts are not important, why are you engaged in acts against the belief of others?

Works do not save, and it is called EVANGELISM. Do you believe that if he had accepted Christ as his savior before his execution that he would be in paradise? If so, what are they, the TEN SUGGESTIONS?

Yes, I do, the thief on the cross didn't have time to do any good works yet Christ was saved. BTW, Jeffrey Dahmer accepted Christ in prison and became a Christian. He is now in heaven regardless of the crimes he committed because he repented and accepted Christ. God forgave him. You really don't get grace do you? Acts only matter as a way we show that WE ARE ALREADY SAVED, not in order TO BE SAVED. The Ten Commandments are a guideline for the JEWS. Under the new Covenant we only have two commandments - Love the Lord and Love your neighbor as yourself. That encompasses all of the decalogue and many other things. I am grateful that people denounced Mormonism to me and debated me and got me to see the light. I love Mormons enough (as myself) to tell them the truth. You don't get God either, God is more concerned with souls than he is with terrorism. So come judgement day, he will as you what YOU did to bring people to him, not did you vote conservative, stop theft or fight terrorism. I can see why you don't go to church, you don't get it.

188 posted on 07/10/2011 11:25:39 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Loud Mime; reaganaut
I believe that it is delusional to think that you are doing God’s work while thinking that the other people are evil.

OK, Loud Mime, you may not think what Reaganaut herself is doing is "evil," but that it's somehow either improper, "wrong" or both. So please explain the distinction you'd make: How would it be "delusional" for Reaganaut "to think" she is "doing God's work while thinking that the other people are evil"...but apparently it's not "delusional" for you to act vs. another's beliefs (Reaganaut) -- all while thinking she is improper or wrong?

If acts are not important, why are you engaged in acts against the belief of others?

Well, since you asked this Q of Reaganaut, I supposed I'd like to see you answer it for yourself...since you seemed to be engaged in acts against the beliefs of others (Reaganaut's beliefs).

Why are you engaged against the beliefs of others (Reaganaut) if that's a vital Q to you?

189 posted on 07/10/2011 1:22:09 PM PDT by Colofornian (The Mormon church regards 100% of the founding fathers as apostates from the 'true' church)
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To: Loud Mime
I went to high school with a mass murderer, who tortured some twenty people to their death.

The BIBLE contains stories of MURDERERS that apparently had repented and were saved...
 
 
Acts chapter 7:54-60
 
54 When the members of the Sanhedrin heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him. 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

57 At this they covered their ears and, yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, 58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul.

59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep.

 

Acts 9:1-22

Saul’s Conversion

1 Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest 2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem. 3 As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”

5 “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.

“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. 6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. 8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. 9 For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.

10 In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, “Ananias!”

“Yes, Lord,” he answered.

11 The Lord told him, “Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. 12 In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight.”

13 “Lord,” Ananias answered, “I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your holy people in Jerusalem. 14 And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name.”

15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel. 16 I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.”

17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord—Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here—has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized, 19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength.

Saul in Damascus and Jerusalem

Saul spent several days with the disciples in Damascus. 20 At once he began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God. 21 All those who heard him were astonished and asked, “Isn’t he the man who raised havoc in Jerusalem among those who call on this name? And hasn’t he come here to take them as prisoners to the chief priests?” 22 Yet Saul grew more and more powerful and baffled the Jews living in Damascus by proving that Jesus is the Messiah.

 

King David...


 

196 posted on 07/23/2011 5:01:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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