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To: Rashputin
They, like Calvinists, didn't believe in missionary work...

Calvinists didn't believe in missionary work?

First, this is what Calvin himself said about evangelism: “It is no small consolation to godly teachers that, although the larger part of the world does not listen to Christ, He has His sheep whom He knows and by whom He is also known. They (all preachers) must do their utmost to bring the whole world into Christ’s fold, but when they do not succeed as they would wish, they must be satisfied with the single thought that those who are sheep will be collected together by their work.” (Calvin’s Commentary on John 17:9).

Second, Calvin evangelized neighboring France. At the beginning of the reformation in 1555, there was only one church. In 1562 Calvin’s movement had led to the formation of 2150 local protestant congregations in an area hostile to protestants Christians.

Third, Calvin himself sent out more worldwide missionaries than most Arminian churches today. Historians have called his Geneva a “hub of vast missionary enterprise” (Frank A. James, III, “Calvin and Missions,” Christian History, 5 no. 4 (Fall 1986) : 23.) For example, historical records show that just in one year, 142 missionaries were sent out by Calvin to go around the world and reach people with the gospel message. Some were even sent to Brazil where they were killed. (Hughes, “John Calvin: D. O. M,” 46; cf. also McGrath, 184).

Fourth, the modern missionary movement as we have come to know it, was founded and stimulated by William Carey, a Calvinist! Today he is called “the father of modern missions” after spending 58 years of his life on Indian soil preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. In fact, a great majority of early missionaries were Calvinists, men like David Brainerd, John G. Paton, Henry Martyn and a host of others. Hundreds of Calvinists were martyred and died sharing the good news of Jesus to sinners. Looking through the history of our modern world we can see that at all times Calvinists have eagerly taken the gospel to nations and people all over the world, from missionaries who died in small tribes, to great revivals and awakenings that swept the western world, reformed Christians have been at the forefront of mission and evangelism work, proclaiming salvation to those  enslaved to sin.

With apostle Paul reformed Christians say ”For this reason I endure all things for the sake of those who are chosen, so that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and with it eternal glory.” (2 Tim 2:10)
7 misconceptions people hold about Calvinism

And this is not even to mention the tremendous missionary ministries of men such as Gerorge Whitfield, Theodore Frelinghuysen, a Dutch reformed Pietist, Gilbert Tennent and Jonathan Edwards, staunch Calvinists all, which were so used by God in what we know as the Great Awakening.

Cordially,

28 posted on 07/04/2011 8:06:09 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond
It's no misconception to say that the majority of Presbyterians think missionary work is a waste of time and don't support it. Pointing to Calvin or anyone else is little more than a bad joke coming from anyone who subscribes to that most Protestant of all doctrines, the doctrine of "Sola Yourselfa"..

Are you saying that Calvin was infallible? Are you personally infallible? Please, what Pope Calvin had to say is moot since each and every Presbyterian can interpret Scriptures as they personally see fit. That's exactly why there are more than a few Presbyterian churches each claiming to be the real and true Calvinists.

30 posted on 07/04/2011 8:20:30 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: Diamond; Celtic Cross; Rashputin; MarkBsnr
Of course Calvinism is incompatible with missionary work -- see how the Union Baptists like Abner Smith and Ariel Dancer followed the "two seeds" doctrine that it was foolish to present the Word to the non-elect and that the elect would be won without missionaries
65 posted on 07/05/2011 1:10:05 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Diamond
Wonderful post, Diamond. I've added it to my homepage.

And your link is terrific. I've sent it to several friends...

SEVEN MISCONCEPTIONS PEOPLE HOLD ABOUT CALVINISM

89 posted on 07/05/2011 9:28:03 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Diamond; Rashputin

your post 28 is incorrect — as I pointed out clearly, the second is utterly false, Calvin did not evangelize France — that was done by Remigius in 496 AD — are you saying that France was not Christian until Cauvin popped up?


159 posted on 07/05/2011 10:35:35 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Diamond; Rashputin

your post 28 is incorrect on the 3rd point, as you yourself acknowledged —> Calvin did NOT sent out more missionaries than the BAptist, Pentecostals, Methodists of today.


160 posted on 07/05/2011 10:36:39 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Diamond; Rashputin
your post 28 is incorrect on the 4th point that Fourth, the modern missionary movement as we have come to know it, was founded and stimulated by William Carey, a Calvinist

As I said The missionary movement was founded by Christ. There is no such thing as "modern missionary movement" indicating a discontinuation with the original message to spread the Word of Christ -- the commission given by Christ Himself. -- are followers of Calvin trying to say that Christ did not start the missionary movement that continues to the present day?

Or are followers of Calvin saying they started a new missionary movement to spread the Gospel of Calvin in opposition to the Gospel of Christ?

161 posted on 07/05/2011 10:38:26 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Diamond; Rashputin; Natural Law
Finally, your point one that must do their utmost to bring the whole world into Christ’s fold, is utterly incompatible with the ideas that God preprogrammed all to good or evil, pre-damned many to heck and no one has any free will -- that means that no one can "do" (a work) anything to "bring" someone into Christ's fold -- it's already predetermined. Jean contradicts himself as do his followers.
162 posted on 07/05/2011 10:40:20 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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