To: Diamond
Actually, that's a good point -- Calvin did create a police state in Geneva, where they attacked fellow Protestants as exemplified in
- Belot, an Anabaptist was arrested for passing out tracts in Geneva and also accusing Calvin of excessive use of wine. With his books and tracts burned, he was banished from the city and told not to return on pain of hanging (J.L. Adams, The Radical Reformation, pp. 597-598).
- Jacques Gruent was racked and then executed for calling Calvin a hypocrite
- A man who publicly protested against the reformer's doctrine of predestination was flogged at all the crossways of the city and then expelled.
- Calvin's Letter to the Marquis Paet, chamberlain to the King of Navarre, 1561. "Honour, glory, and riches shall be the reward of your pains; but above all, do not fail to rid the country of those scoundrels [Anabaptists and others], who stir up the people to revolt against us. Such monsters should be exterminated, as I have exterminated Michael Servetus the Spaniard."
Sources quoted in Philip Schaff's History of the Christian Church, vol. 8:
- "The death penalty against heresy, idolatry and blasphemy and barbarous customs of torture were retained. Attendance at public worship was commanded on penalty of three sols. Watchmen were appointed to see that people went to church. The members of the Consistory visited every house once a year to examine the faith and morals of the family. Every unseemly word and act on the street was reported, and the offenders were cited before the Consistory to be either censured and warned, or to be handed over to the Council for severer punishment."
- Several women, among them the wife of Ami Perrin, the captain-general, were imprisoned for dancing.
- A man was banished from the city for three months because on hearing an ass bray, he said jestingly 'He prays a beautiful psalm.'
- A young man was punished because he gave his bride a book on housekeeping with the remark: 'This is the best Psalter.'
- Three men who laughed during a sermon were imprisoned for three days.
- Three children were punished because they remained outside of the church during the sermon to eat cakes.
- A man who swore by the 'body and blood of Christ' was fined and condemned to stand for an hour in the pillory on the public square.
- A child was whipped for calling his mother a thief and a she-devil.
- A girl was beheaded for striking her parents.
- A banker was executed for repeated adultery.
- A person named Chapuis was imprisoned for four days because he persisted in calling his child Claude (a Roman Catholic saint) instead of Abraham.
- Men and women were burnt to death for witchcraft. (See Pike, pp. 55,56).
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176 posted on
07/06/2011 6:52:47 AM PDT by
Cronos
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To: Cronos
You prove that my expectation was correct. I've stopped counting the times that you have failed to give any intelligible answer to why, if
"Calvinists didn't believe in missionary work", or as you put it,
"Calvinism is incompatible with missionary work", the particular Calvinists I listed in post #28 engaged in the extensive missionary work that they did.
Crickets.
(And fwiw, "A POLICE STATE" - COMPARED TO WHAT? North Korea? Present day America? Colonial America? The Papal monarchies of Europe? Do you want to compare apples and oranges for a while?)
Cordially,
204 posted on
07/07/2011 6:48:04 AM PDT by
Diamond
(He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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