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To: smvoice
Music to those of us who believe that God has given EVERY BELIEVER the ability to study His word of truth. Through the Holy Spirit, residing in each believer. We don't need to give our God-given abilities to understand His word to anyone else.

How many thousands of beliefs of every colour, odour and appearance use this as justification?

Jesus created one Church. Men have created all of those ever since.

“Where the bishop is, there let the multitude of believers be; even as where Jesus is, there is the Catholic Church” -Saint Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, 1st c. A.D.

Where do your beliefs come from? Either God or somewhere else:

Where is the Gospel? "Hold fast to the traditions you received from us, either by our word or by letter." (2 Thessalonians 3:15)

If you guys do not hold to the traditions of the Church, how can you consider yourselves Christians?

352 posted on 06/15/2011 5:29:43 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr

Because the Church doesn’t save, Mark. Belief that Christ died for your sins, and His death is all sufficient for your salvation is what saves. Strangely absent from the RCC.


354 posted on 06/15/2011 5:55:23 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: MarkBsnr; smvoice
Where is the Gospel? "Hold fast to the traditions you received from us, either by our word or by letter." (2 Thessalonians 3:15)

If you guys do not hold to the traditions of the Church, how can you consider yourselves Christians?

Strangely, you quote Paul????????

In any event please make note of the tense. Pay attention now - it is Past Tense. Stretch the meaning a little and it is not unreasonable to consider Present Tense. (ie, during the life of the Apostles.) Never, no where, no how, can you find acceptance of "Tradiition To Be Developed."

447 posted on 06/16/2011 9:25:46 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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