Did Mary Have Other Children?

Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry ^ | Unknown | Matt Slick

[Iscool]

No he didn't, but unless you are claiming that the entire Word, including the Word incarnate, can be completely contained within a book, or that John is claiming that his own writings contain all of the Word the passage clearly doesn't mean what you are implying.

You know what I am claiming and that claim is a rebuttal to your statement that

Were all that is necessary containable in a Book God would have repeated the Mosaic process and sent the Gospel on Stone Tablets. Instead He sent His Son to establish a Church.

And yes again, all that was necessary is contained within a book, the Bible...

[Natural Law]

"You know what I am claiming..."

No one, including you, knows what you are claiming.

"And yes again, all that was necessary is contained within a book, the Bible..."

So sayeth John Calvin. Just don't expect Christians to buy into that bibliolatry nonsense.

[OLD REGGIE]

"Time to go back to your day job."

What makes you think I am an attorney? As for your profession I see you have many of the skills to be a pretty good aphodiinae.

I don't think you are an attorney. Maybe a "pretend" attorney, but then I have come to expect pretense from you.

Now be a good boy and drink your

[FourtySeven]

You know what’s always struck me about this, and similar types of debates that are, ultimately not about whether or not Mary had kids, (they are about whether or not the Magisterium of the Catholic Church has the knowledge, much less the authority, to teach the Faith, and if that’s “mind reading” to say that, so be it I don’t care anymore)...

....but what has really struck me is the implied claim that for over 1500 years, “apparently”, the same Magisterium never bothered to read Scripture as “effectively” or as “rationally” as say, Matt Slick.

Such people, whoever they may be, obviously have a low opinion of their fellow man, so low in fact that they must believe the Holy Spirit would never deign to help such people who obviously desired to teach the Faith (the Magisterium). No, He just pretty much gave up on His Church for 1500 years until people with the “right way to read the Bible, i.e., anything anti Catholic came along”, and then He said, “Finally, some people who are worthy of my Grace”.

Is the hubris there only obvious to me? (note, that’s a rhetorical question; if one chooses to respond to it in writing, don’t take my non-response as proof of some great point made, as that would be a foolish thing to do, for an answer to a rhetorical question)

[OLD REGGIE]

Of course the standard disclaimer applies. 'Revelation is complete but we don't yet "understand" it fully.'

Of course. How could anyone understand it fully until Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, Unitarians, Duplantis, Hinn, Crouch, Old Reggie, etc. etc. came along.

I don't know about those other guys but I guarantee OLD REGGIE doesn't understand "hidden" Revelation.

Look! Up in the sky, it's a bird, it's a plane, it's the Magisterium!

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The difference between Calvin and the Roman Catholic church regarding the Jews is that Calvin wanted to covert them while Rome wanted to exterminate them (and they did.)

[Dr. Eckleburg]

You continue to post ONE DISGRUNTLED MAN’S OPINION over and over and over, as if it were some big revelation.

ONE MAN’S OPINION.

Who cares? It means nothing. And everyone knows that.

[D-fendr]

No one claims it’s hidden, even when they “discover” it. Tulip, Sola Scriptura, Calvinism, Dispensationalism, Universal Unitarianism, Reggieism.. whatever - so long as it’s not Catholic some folks will follow it.

[D-fendr]

We can conveniently overlook the Protestants that voted the Nazis into power.

[getoffmylawn]

The "Bahble Bleavin" Protestant cults of FreeRepublic want us to believe everybody of the Orthodox/Catholic from the first bishops (including the Apostles?) to you and I are in error and are not true Christians. They believe every single one of us is either burning in hell or will be burning in hell for being members of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

Not a single person was saved until Martin Luther came along. Even the guys that put the Bible together are now burning in hell because they belonged to the Church (talk about your irony overload!) Think of all those Church members burning in hell. Every single one of them. If that's not proof the god of the Protestant cults is pure evil, I don't know what is.

[Cronos]

oh, it hit home, eh?

This guy ain't no ONE disgruntled man -- he's one of your ex-ruling elders and he knows the level of dirt in your cult.

Guess what, the times up -- your anti-Christian, anti-semitic cult is going the way of the PCUSA, and quickly. Buh-bye...

[Cronos]

Oh, don't try to divert the topic. The topic is the blatant anti-semitism of your cult today. Your cult has replaced Jesus with Paul, Paul with Augustine, Augustine with Calvin and now replaced Calvin with MAchen

Why is your cult so anti-semitic? Why does your cult hate Jews and Christians?

[Cronos]

you got it right — these are egotistical folks who will embrace any of their own selfish philosophies — we even have one Unitarian Universalist here who says it’s all “biblical” and sola scriptura — well, with sola scriptura a Unitarian can prove his point!

[Cronos]

{According to the FR anti-orthodoxy crowd} Not a single person was saved until Martin Luther came along. Even the guys that put the Bible together are now burning in hell because they belonged to the Church (talk about your irony overload!) Think of all those Church members burning in hell. Every single one of them. If that's not proof the god of the cults is pure evil, I don't know what is.

Yes, the cults these guys belong to are pure evil

[Cronos]

Look! Up in the sky, it's a bird, it's a plane, it's the Biblical Unitarian Universalist out to prove Unitarianism by sola scriptura

[Cronos]

iscool: .I am the church...

See the hubris.

[D-fendr]

It takes real talent for a Christian to get a church with pagans, muslims and atheists from Scripture.

[Titanites]

I am the church...

You and your Lazy Boy do not make a church.

[Titanites]

See the hubris.

You would think that after getting so many things wrong, so consistently, that it might open up their eyes to the fact that it isn't "just me and my Bible". This is a classic example of why He left a teaching Church.