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To: RnMomof7

You wrote:

“but the weight that Catholicism puts on Mary’s perpetual virginity points to the fact that they see sex between husbands and wives as dirty .. It seems the only woman that has value is the one that is a virgin”

That’s an incredibly bizarre statement. First of all, Jesus Himself valued virginity (Matthew 19:11-12) so there’s nothing wrong with His followers doing it as well. Secondly, the fact that Theology of the Body is ours means we do not view the marital act between husband and wife as anything but beneficial in itself.

Care to peddle any other anti-Catholic smears while you’re here?


66 posted on 05/31/2011 1:15:40 PM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't debate they just make stuff up.)
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To: vladimir998

I guess to them being overshadowed by the Holy Spirit and conceiving the second person of the Holy Trinity, God the Son in the Flesh is no big deal and does not make Mary special at all.

I guess they can not suppose that Joseph the most chaste spouse of Mary might, just might regard it as a fearful trespass much like touching the Ark to have sexual intercourse with Mary who had been chosen by God to bring forth the Son. Yep just routine stuff in those days. No biggie.


74 posted on 05/31/2011 1:27:51 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: vladimir998
“but the weight that Catholicism puts on Mary’s perpetual virginity points to the fact that they see sex between husbands and wives as dirty .. It seems the only woman that has value is the one that is a virgin”

That’s an incredibly bizarre statement. First of all, Jesus Himself valued virginity (Matthew 19:11-12) so there’s nothing wrong with His followers doing it as well.

Marys womb was just a womb after the birth of Jesus ... she , like all Jewish women observed the rites of purification following the birth ...so she was able to have sex with her husband ..The Son of Man was to be fully human, have a complete human experience which would have included parents that loved one and other.. had marital relations and had brothers and sisters.. Mary is not a goddess ...to make her one blasphemes God. If her sexual life was ordered by God to be different that the other women of her day.. that would have been made clear in the scriptures.. instead we read this..

Mat 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Would Mary having a sexual relationship with her husband made her a sinner?Would it have soiled her? Would Jesus not have loved her?

The only reason for this doctrine is the Misogyny of the men in those days, and apparently Catholic men today

140 posted on 05/31/2011 3:18:28 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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