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To: presently no screen name; lastchance
pnsm: Jesus Christ was persecuted and died - that is the only focus for a Christian

Actually for us Christians we believe that Jesus Christ was persecuted, died, rose from the dead and is not sitting at the right hand of God the Father -- because Jesus Christ IS God

Now, I realise that it is difficult for many to acknowledge that, it is the central mystery of our Christian faith which is not only that Christ DIED, but more importantly that HE TRIUMPHED OVER DEATH, He rose again from the dead, He IS/WAS/will always be GOD

Non-Christians cannot acknowledge this fact of Jesus's resurrection and that Jesus Christ is God.

laschance -- let's leave the non-Christians here to debate with the non-Trinitarian non-Catholics and the Trinitarian non-Catholics. Judith anne is correct, there is a point beyond which the other posters do not show any propensity to sensibly discuss and here we have the normal suspects that spout bile and will not acknowledge Jesus Christ as God -- let's not waste time on this any more

432 posted on 06/02/2011 1:08:03 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: presently no screen name; lastchance
Oops -- a spelling mistake in the earlier one!

But then that's what happens with individuals -- we make small mistakes. However, when we work as a team under Christ we make less and when we work as The Church under Christ our Head Priest, His Bride, His Church stretching back 2000 years with the store of wisdom poured in by the Apostles and the refining over the centuries, we make lesser errors

Presently no screeno said: Jesus Christ was persecuted and died - that is the only focus for a Christian

Actually for us Christians we believe that Jesus Christ was persecuted, died, rose from the dead and is NOW sitting at the right hand of God the Father -- because Jesus Christ IS God

Now, I realise that it is difficult for many to acknowledge that, it is the central mystery of our Christian faith which is not only that Christ DIED, but more importantly that HE TRIUMPHED OVER DEATH, He rose again from the dead, He IS/WAS/will always be GOD

Non-Christians cannot acknowledge this fact of Jesus's resurrection and that Jesus Christ is God.

Lastchance -- take note if a person refuses to acknowledge the resurrection of the Lord that signifies a non-Christian belief denying the divinity of Christ.

436 posted on 06/02/2011 4:27:17 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Cronos

Actually he is sitting at the right hand until his enemies are made his footstool.
The right hand is a symbol of power used throughout the Old Testament.

Psalms 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
:2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
:3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
:5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
:7 He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.
:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

YHVH is one (echad)
He came in the flesh
It is His omnipresence which man cannot comprehend

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Mathew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Zechariah 13:6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.


504 posted on 06/02/2011 10:41:41 AM PDT by Lera
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To: D-fendr; presently no screen name
oh and d-fendr, do note that Presently no screeno said: Jesus Christ was persecuted and died - that is the only focus for a Christian

Actually for us Christians we believe that Jesus Christ was persecuted, died, rose from the dead and is NOW sitting at the right hand of God the Father -- because Jesus Christ IS God

We Christians realise that it is difficult for many to acknowledge that, it is the central mystery of our Christian faith which is not only that Christ DIED, but more importantly that HE TRIUMPHED OVER DEATH, He rose again from the dead, He IS/WAS/will always be GOD

Non-Christians cannot acknowledge this fact of Jesus's resurrection and that Jesus Christ is God.

d-fendr -- take note if a person refuses to acknowledge the resurrection of the Lord that signifies a non-Christian belief denying the divinity of Christ.

1,210 posted on 06/06/2011 2:59:54 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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