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AG; I don't know anything about Duplantis or Hinn and do not care to research them.

Oh, no need to research them.

Just as you were perplexed and questioned in post 1062 on what had been excerpted in post 789 (which I explained above and seems more a difference in terminology)

, I'm sure you would be as concerned as i was about the sheer blasphemy in the following statements

By Jesse Duplantis

God has the power to take life, but He can’t.
He’s got the power to do it, but He won’t. He’s bound; He can’t.
He says, “Death and life is in the power of” who’s tongue? Yours. You ready for this? You want something that’ll knock your lights off?
You choose when you live; you choose when you die. Death and life is in the power of your tongue, not God’s.

"Adam (not God) breathed life into animals"

“The very first thing on Jesus’ agenda was to get rid of poverty!

"With fierce prayers and determination to see my mother healed, I started talking to God. "What is going on here?! I'm praying! Dad's praying! Why isn't she healed? You cannot allow death to defeat me, God. You made a covenant with me through Jesus' blood! And that covenant says by His stripes we were healed! Where is that healing? If you break this covenant with me, you'll have to cease to be God! You must keep covenant with me. You must obey your Word!"

God tells Jesse: "You have Me in a hard place, Jesse. Someone has got to give in. Get yourselves together and tell Me what I am to do!" --> So God needs Jesse to tell Him what to do?

By benny hinn

God has 9 parts (tri-theistic).
A. God has a body, soul and spirit.
B. Jesus has a body, soul and spirit.
C. Holy Spirit has a body, soul and spirit. (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn broadcast, recorded 10/13/90)

"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, 'The only way I can stop sin is by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature of Satan where He became sin!" (Benny Hinn, TBN, 12/1/90).

I don't understand how people can read this and still say Many folks assume that because Benny Hinn doesn't fit our notions of integrity and a lot of other truly very important factors--GOD SIMPLY COULD NOT AND WOULD NOT EVER USE HIM IN ANY WAY FOR ANY REASON IN ANY CONTEXT.

Isn't this If you break this covenant with me, you'll have to cease to be God sheer blasphemy?

i'm sure, just as you were concerned about the wording earlier, you two will be concerned about these gross blasphemies too, correct?

You persist in asking me to take a position on Duplantis/Hinn which I have not yet done because I am not interested in either of them and don't have the time to research them.

When something grates in the Spirit I am compelled to react. But how I react depends on the type of grating. To varying degrees the above quotes and a lot of other material on this forum grates in those three categories as follows.

1. Top Spiritual Priority: When a testimony denies a Name of God, i.e. Who He IS.

It happens all the time on LDS threads because the LDS doctrine is that God the Father had a father who had a father, etc. Which is to say it denies the Names of God: I AM, YHwH, The Lord, El Shaddai, Alpha and Omega. And my reaction is to point the heresy out, but not more than twice:

A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. - Titus 3:10-11

If I were to research it, I would look for the context of the description of God the Father, Son and Spirit each and separately having a body, soul and spirit. On the surface it looks like this category - but I'd have to see the rest of the story, e.g. is he saying that each Person in the Trinity partakes in the other or what?

2. When a person who says he is Christian obviously does not take God seriously.

The kind of behavior that has resulted in newsworthy scandals in all faiths would never have happened if the perps took God seriously. Nor would there have been lawsuits to collect damages (I Cor 6.)

And the above excerpt which is a clutched fist raised to God demanding He submit or be rejected is a case in point. Who knowing God and taking Him seriously could possibly say such words?

Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. - 2 Timothy 3:5

From such people I turn away. I have nothing to do with them.

3. Hyperbole - Christians on every side often get carried away and overstate what they mean.

When a mother says "For the millionth time, Johnny, put the bike in the garage." that is hyperbole.

Technically it is a lie because surely she must know that it isn't possible for her to have said that phrase a million times. What she meant might have been "Johnny, I'm exhausted from having to tell you to put your bike in the garage."

Now, the hearer might be outraged and correctly so that she lied to her son. And she might correctly feel justified in that God knows the thoughts and intents of her heart.

But it cuts both ways. On a more serious matter, if her heart is not so clean then His knowing does not help her. Indeed, it might condemn her.

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: [and] he that shutteth his lips [is esteemed] a man of understanding. - Proverbs 17:28

But the tongue can no man tame; [it is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. - James 3:8

All that I can do when my brothers and sisters in Christ seem to get carried away overstating things is to point to the words of God. I cannot or will not judge them.

As a final note, I received something in the Spirit last night which I need to convey. There is actually a curse attached to a person who returns evil for good. Evil will come back upon him and his house - and it will not leave.

Whoso rewardeth evil for good, evil shall not depart from his house. - Proverbs 17:13

That of course underscores the importance of being good stewards of our hearts, minds and souls.

God's Name is I AM.