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The Church Fathers- Mary: Ever Virgin
The Church Fathers ^ | 120AD-450AD

Posted on 05/31/2011 11:53:33 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: Cronos
I am joined in prayer for Spiritual renewal throughout the United States.
2,341 posted on 06/13/2011 9:33:58 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix
Thank you so much for the encouragements, dear brother in Christ - but truly you do not need to give me credit for any of it.
2,342 posted on 06/13/2011 9:41:22 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: OpusatFR
Thank you for filling in the blanks. :)

Today after morning Mass, the Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament began, which was a wonderful surprise as this particular church has been spiritually dry as a desert. But not today, and I'm on my way!

For those interested in a peaceful place of prayer where one can spend time with Jesus, here's a link to find a chapel near you. You do not have to be a Catholic to be present, believing in the True Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
2,343 posted on 06/13/2011 9:44:12 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: OpusatFR; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; jeremiah; ...

True enough.

However, I think y’all—and I really mean a huge proportion of RC’s on FR and in the general population—

SERIOUSLY AND OUTRAGEOUSLY MINIMIZE

even seem utterly blind to

the DEGREE and comprehensiveness

to which

THE VATICAN

and the culture the Vatican propagates, embellishes, promotes, encourages, flaunts . . . etc. etc. etc.

aids, abets, trumpets, applauds, exalts

EXACTLY THOSE OUTRAGEOUS PERSPECTIVES CITED SO ABUNDANTLY IN FERRARO.

And then, when Proddys point to Scripture and say

NO! NO!

There’s this hastey pretense of a retreat declaring . . .

oh but THAT’S not in the Catechism

or

But you don’t understand . . . . we REALLY mean . . .

or

But that doesn’t qualify under our 101 shades of ‘worship’

or

that’s private interpretation [except when you’re in the INGROUP and we are exalting in our exclusivity, idolatries and blasphemies unabandonedly]

Gag.

I’m beginning to think y’all really ought to get out more.

It is as though the whole vast Vatican Cult culture

lives in some gigantic cloister somewhere quite removed from reality and particularly from any

candid view of themselves that the rest of the world sees quite routinely.

The INSTITUTIONAL BLINDNESS [actually a technical term in Org Dev circles] is shocking in degree, breadth and depth.


2,344 posted on 06/13/2011 10:01:55 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Mad Dawg

I used to love that song. . . . when I was in college and pretending to learn French.


2,345 posted on 06/13/2011 10:02:54 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alamo-Girl

I understand.

However, Scripture says . . . honor to whom honor is due . . .

and being The Lord’s scribe is an honorable office that you frequently fill very faithfully.

Thanks for the honor of being able to share such Lord’s Wisdom through you a bit more broadly.


2,346 posted on 06/13/2011 10:04:49 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mlizzy; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; jeremiah; Lera; ...

Shocking as it may be to some . . . or perhaps even sacriligious . . .

I drive by ST Mary’s frequently.

And, I don’t have any big problem praying in a quiet remotely Christian place regardless of the label on the door or church yard.

However, I wouldn’t want to be out of order and would want to respect as much as conscience would allow—the basic parameters involved . . . so . . .

Are you saying I’d have to believe in the REAL PRESENCE to pray in the chapel?

Or could I go in, sit in a back pew and pray quietly and leave when finished?

Particularly if I promised not to pray loudly in tongues, roll in the asile or hang from the chandeliers?


2,347 posted on 06/13/2011 10:09:57 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
LOLOL!
2,348 posted on 06/13/2011 10:14:35 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Quix

well, I persist because as I saw you were interested in possible errors in Marian doctrines, I’m sure you would be interested in the outright blasphemies of Jesse Duplantis. More critically, as you like all care for Quix, it would be good to help him realise these blasphemies


2,349 posted on 06/13/2011 10:16:34 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Quix; mlizzy
Particularly if I promised not to pray loudly in tongues, roll in the asile or hang from the chandeliers?

You can pray in tongues -- we're not Calvinists who consider that to be impossible -- we know some of these are from God.

hanging from the chandeliers would be a no-no, as you could injure yourself. Ditto rolling

2,350 posted on 06/13/2011 10:18:54 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Quix
Or could I go in, sit in a back pew and pray quietly and leave when finished?

Particularly if I promised not to pray loudly in tongues, roll in the asile or hang from the chandeliers?

How funny! LOLOL!

Seriously though, I take our elderly cousins to Mass all the time and no one ever objects. Of course I do not take part in the cup and bread because the Church notice tells non members to refrain.

2,351 posted on 06/13/2011 10:19:54 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cronos
Hmmm ... I would have thought you would be pleased that I am more interested in Catholic teaching than that of Duplantis or Hinn.
2,352 posted on 06/13/2011 10:22:07 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

OK. Good. Thanks.

Will have to check it out when I’m driving by with some time.


2,353 posted on 06/13/2011 10:24:20 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; mlizzy; OpusatFR
Are you saying I’d have to believe in the REAL PRESENCE to pray in the chapel?

What are you talking about? mlizzy's post in 2343 was to opusatfr, not to you and you can freely pray in the chapel. Just respect the peace and the place as per how we pray -- just as we would do the same on visiting your place of worship

2,354 posted on 06/13/2011 10:24:20 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Quix

And promise not to enter their confessional phone booth. ;)

But since born again believers are the temple of the Holy Spirit, we pray where ever we are as He’s always with us so He always hears and answers us no matter where we are.


2,355 posted on 06/13/2011 10:27:28 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

LOL.

When Hinn says something other than Scripture, I think the most charitable thing someone could do is stuff a dirty sock in his mouth.

Or bopp him on the head harder than he bops congregants on their head. Hideous stuff, imho.

I don’t know what seem to chronically driven him off the rails so much . . . but one would think that someone whom God HAS USED as much as him—would either listen to God better about himself or get some mentors or other brothers help him get healed, cleansed, delivered . . . more whole in Jesus before he continued his ministry efforts.

The evident arrogance preventing such submissiveness is probably more hazard to Biblical ministry than the other outrageous junk.


2,356 posted on 06/13/2011 10:27:54 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mlizzy
Catholics feel differently about the verse and the explanation is here.

Aw c'mon...Can't you post a paragraph or even write one yourself instead of linking me to a book???

And then again, Catholic clergy feel differently about most or all verses of scripture written in plain speech...

2,357 posted on 06/13/2011 10:28:20 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: presently no screen name

True. True.

However . . . quiet “Christian” places are not overly plentiful.

Besides . . . it might be an occasion to pray for those associated with the location with a bit more focus and awareness.


2,358 posted on 06/13/2011 10:30:02 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: OpusatFR
This is only part of the biblical basis of the Communion of the Saints.

There is no biblical basis for your communion of Saints...Guess that's why it takes a few small novels to articulate what's not found in the scriptures...

2,359 posted on 06/13/2011 10:31:36 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Quix

Yes, in the teaching, but more because you can reach out to our friend Quix. The blasphemies of Jesse Duplantis etc. are so horrendous and if you can reach out to Quix and help him move away from this con-man, that’s good.


2,360 posted on 06/13/2011 10:31:51 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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