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To: Quix

Interesting ... you must really have not liked posts 555 and 582. Why don’t you respond to what I said there, before the subject is changed to Revelation 20, of which I said nothing?


595 posted on 05/23/2011 7:33:19 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Belteshazzar

As you say . . . such wrangling rarely enlightens.

I have enough other priorities, I’m not that eager to get into such at the moment.

Clearly we disagree.

For example,

I do not remotely consider Israel to be a parallel to Mary as you noted.


600 posted on 05/23/2011 8:00:42 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Belteshazzar
If you had read the article at the link, you would have seen that, during the Millennial Kingdom, national Israel will not only play a major part in governing the world with Jesus Christ, but will be put in positions of authority over Gentiles.

Here is some Biblical truth from the article:

"There are several passages that speak of David as being king over Israel and prince under King Messiah, such as Jeremiah 30:9. Not only will Israel in the future serve Jehovah their God, but they will also serve David their king."

"Another passage is Ezekiel 34:23-24. When the restoration of Israel comes, it will no longer be in the form of two kingdoms with each one having their own king. They will be a reunited nation with only one head, and that head will be the resurrected David, who will serve as their prince. So while Jehovah will serve as their God and absolute King, David will serve under Him as God's prince over Israel."

"Later, in Ezekiel 37:24-25, Ezekiel reiterates the fact that they will have David to function as the king of Israel. He is to be their prince and shepherd. Under his guidance, Israel will be able to keep the righteous commandments of God. The Land will be restored to them as well as David their king."

As we all know, David never accepted Christ as his Savior because the Father had not sent the Messiah at that time, yet we know from Scripture that David is put in a position of "prince" during the Millennial Reign of Christ.

It would appear as though God has a plan for national Israel in the future, even though they are currently in a state of unbelief. We may just have to accept what God tells us all through the Bible - that God will purify Israel through the Tribulation and bring her to the point where she accepts Jesus as her Messiah and is in a position to receive the blessings that God has promised them. We may just have to believe God when He tells us that "all Israel will be saved".

Then there is this little bombshell:

"The final link in this chain of command in the Jewish branch of government is that Israel is to become the head over the Gentiles. More will be said on this in the next chapter, but mention of it must be made here."

"The fact that Israel is to become the head of the Gentiles was part of God's promises to Israel in the Book of Deuteronomy. One such passage is Deuteronomy 15:6."

"The leadership over the Gentiles is to be part of Israel's reward for obedience in Deuteronomy 28:1."

"Such obedience and headship awaits Israel's national regeneration. This promise is reiterated in Deuteronomy 28:13."

"Besides the statements found in the Law of Moses, the Prophets also described Israel's future headship over the Gentiles. One such passage is Isaiah 14:1-2."

"For Jehovah will have compassion on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the sojourner shall join himself with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. And the peoples shall take them, and bring them to their place; and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of Jehovah for servants and for handmaids: and they shall take them captive whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

"The Gentiles will not only conduct the Jews back to the Land of Israel, but they will be possessed by Israel. They will become servants to Israel. Similar passages are found in Isaiah 49:22-23 and 61:6-7."

It doesn't get any better for those who believe that Jews have been discarded. God has a plan for Israel, separate and apart from the Church, and He will keep His promises to His chosen people.

625 posted on 05/24/2011 1:45:12 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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