Posted on 05/13/2011 2:57:33 AM PDT by Gamecock
I don’t know how repentant her heart is.
That’s God’s priority.
I VERY GREATLY AGREE.
Interesting.
It is another to dogpile on someone else—particularly a public figure—in order to boost one’s own sense of worth.
Leaving aside the question of why a public figure would be entitled to any greater consideration than an anonymous person, this is also interesting.
I am left with the following conclusion:
If Quix doesn't like the person who is being criticized, then any criticism of that person is a fitting and appropriate calling of a spade a spade.
If Quix likes the person who is being criticized, then any criticism of that person is a "dogpiling" and apparently unfitting and immoral.
She was divorced yet Jesus condemned this practice and subsequent remarriage. How can a christian countenance this type of behavior? Perhaps you are not a christian.
In addition, how is it possible to continuously cast aspersions at other Churches but not this instance? Could we have an inherent bigotry existing in the heart or perhaps some hypocrisy?
Blame it on the space cadets . Inquiring minds want to know.
WRONG.
This gal is far from my preference.
According to your earlier assessment, she is candid, honest and Biblical.
Your analysis of the Paula White case seems to turn more on your personal biases rather than on any objective evaluation.
How is it that I need to cast aspersions
on top of the Himalya’s worth already cast?
Are you really convinced that she LACKS
CONDEMNATION?
I suppose you think you’re God’s anointed messenger to deliver yet another mountain worth?
BTW, no commiserating.
. . . except as a fellow flawed human.
A compelling question, bronx2.
That’s how her narrative struck me.
Particularly compared to the RC hierarchy’s dancing, bouncing, shucking and jiving about all the athletics with the altar boys.
Evidently you’ve missed some of my criticisms of Pentecostalism.
I think candid statements in public are an improvement.
I’ll likely continue to applaud them.
Paula White Scam Causes Single Mother To Stop Attending Church
Posted by Job on June 12, 2007
TAMPA – LaShonda Dupree heard the drum roll, saw the gleaming lights and the television cameras as she stood on stage at Without Walls International Church.
She was a 20-year-old single mother of three with bad credit and an apartment she could afford only with government assistance.
As the music crescendoed, she realized she’d won the top prize in an essay contest: a brand new, $100,000 house in Temple Terrace.
“Congratulations on your new home!” Pastor Paula White told Dupree.
“I don’t know if you know this or not, but it’s not just a house,” Pastor Randy White informed the roaring crowd. “It comes with all the furniture inside, too.”
Dupree was jubilant, nearly in tears, as her children joined her onstage.
“I was like, this is not real,” Dupree recalled of the giveaway Nov. 17, 2002, at Without Walls’ Lakeland campus.
As it turns out, it wasn’t.
Today Dupree, 25, lives with her children in a house she rents in Riverview for $673 a month. She is no closer to homeownership than she was during the church’s Home For The Holidays presentation. The event and the family’s subsequent tour of the house – “Whose room is this?” “Who’s going to get the bunk bed?” Paula White asks Dupree’s daughters – aired repeatedly on the Christian Television Network.
Dupree has said little about her experience until a story Sunday in The Tampa Tribune detailed problems at Without Walls. It is one of the largest independent nondenominational churches, collecting $40 million a year in revenue. Detractors say its pastors borrowed $170,000 from an elderly widow and never kept promises to care for her or pay it back. Since 2000, five businesspeople have sued or filed liens against the church or the pastors, accusing them of not paying bills or reneging on deals.
This week, Dupree said she is another victim.
“It was like, ‘Hey, everybody, look at all the good we’re doing here!’ But they didn’t tell the rest of the story, which is the recipient never got the house,” she said.
Robert Fruster was the man on stage announcing the winners. He felt terrible about what happened, he said.
“We needed to live up to what we said we were going to do,” said Fruster, a former Without Walls pastor.
It Began With A Class
Through a public relations company, Randy White issued a statement that said the giveaway did not turn out the way he had hoped.
“We tried to do a good thing, and it backfired,” the statement said. However, White said the contest clearly stated that the winner got a down payment, not the house.
That's an interesting comment, in light of this earlier one:
How is it that I need to cast aspersions on top of the Himalya’s worth already cast?
Surely you see the double standard at work here.
Thank you for the link, Quix. Have a great day.
Criticize or don't criticize, it's up to you.
I just think it's fascinating to make sweeping statements against throwing rocks in general and at Paula White in particular, and then follow those statements up by throwing rocks at other targets.
The allure of human divinity is strong. Rob Bell of Mars Hill seems to have been sucked in by it. If they find something in the Bible that they don’t like, they immediately assume the Bible is the problem. That’s how several denominations could believe that Jesus turned water into grape juice at Cana or ordain women/divorced people. They are so self-centered, they believe themselves over the Bible.
“Any man who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is not fit for the Kingdom of Heaven”
“That’s God’s priority.”
She’s a church leader so we get a vote on that. Paul advised us to be wise about false teachers.
From your link:
“For a period of 23 hours, a young Ecuadorian girl named Angelica was shown the Kingdoms of Heaven and Hell, and the Return of Christ. She witnessed Jesus weeping as He overlooked multitudes of souls lost forever, a world that has rejected Him, a Church that is mostly unprepared for Him, a people that have stopped witnessing to the lost, and an entertainment industry that even lures children to satan. She witnessed many of our esteemed cultural icons suffering in the Pit; singers, entertainers, and even a pope. Angelica was also shown how the Kingdom of Heaven is all wonderfully prepared and ready, an unimaginable glorious place, where no evil exists. Though Jesus is ONLY coming back for a Holy People, and many of God’s children will NOT be ready on that day, and will be left behind in a world that will fall apart.”
We know billions of people are lost, dead in trespasses and sin, and they are not ready for His return. Counted among that number are sure to be many who are members of a church.
But His people, the Body of Christ, THE Church, are indeed prepared for His return.
A believer grows in grace and sanctification, but the moment he is born from above he’s got all he will ever need—Jesus Christ. One day believers will stand sin-ridden and guilty in the court of heaven, but they will be found spotless and blameless because they are clothed in the robes of HIS perfect righteousness. Nothing can pluck them from His hand.
You can stand on the promises of His Word, He’s trustworthy. If you’ve got Him, if He has truly wrought a change in your heart, you don’t need to concern yourself with the visions of Ecuadorian girls, the wild claims made by healers, or the promises of prosperity teachers.
Paula White’s Friend Bishop Rick Hawkins Caught Up in A Church Sex Scandal
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4114696187749649421#
Nov 21, 2007 ... In February, Paula removed Randy and added Rick Hawkins to her board of directors
Let us explore this apparent contradiction . Do we have evidence of rash judgment accompanied by unmitigated criticism of others who have been accused of scandal while easily dismissing the obvious sin in this case? Jesus is mercy but His Justice demands accountability.
Are you extending the same amount of boundless grace to all sinners or just to certain preferred ones?
Have you been "Judging from the sidelines needing to guard your heart mind and soul" or have you been a player in this game guilty of similar transgressions?
Confession is good for the soul , JN 20:23, and so a personal catharsis might well expiate for past transgressions and would assuage your spiritual equilibrium.May the peace of Christ be with you.
Amen, Friend!
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