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To: bronx2
I prefer to treat them as separate as their doctrines differ so substantially as to be utterly separate religions

  1. Some say one should believe in something as basic as Jesus was always God (Trinitarian position) or that Jesus Christ was man made God (Oneness PENTECOSTAL Protestant position) or the Angel Michael (Seventh Day Adventist Ellen G White teaching)
  2. Some say that there is the REAL Presence of Christ in the Eucharist (Lutheran, some Anglicans, maybe even Methodists), or is it just a symbol (Calvinists)
  3. Some say that one MUST talk in tongues (Oneness Pentecostal) to display faith or not?
  4. Some say that there should be an episcopate (Lutheran, Anglican) or not (Presbyterians)?
  5. Some say that apostolic succession is important (Anglican) or not (others)?
  6. Some say that Baptism is for infants and sufficient (Presbyterian etc.) or not (Baptists)?
  7. Some say that God pre-damns people to hell (Calvinism) or not (others)?
  8. Some say that vestements are ok (or in the silly words of one poster allowing men in dresses and silly hats) (Anglicans, Lutherans, some Methodists, Presbyterians, even Baptists and Pentecostals) or not?
  9. Some say that Jesus came only for the salvation of a few (Calvinists) or he was Savior of the world (everyone else)?
  10. Some agree or disagree with soul sleep? (Calvin: "As long as (the soul) is in the body it exerts its own powers; but when it quits this prison-house it returns to God, whose presence, it meanwhile enjoys while it rests in the hope of a blessed Resurrection. This rest is its paradise. On the other hand, the spirit of the reprobate, while it waits for the dreadful judgment, is tortured by that anticipation. . .", Psychopannychia,
  11. Some agree or disagree with worshipping on a Sunday (Presbyterians, Pentecostals etc.) or not (Seventh Day Adventists)
  12. Some agree with the Adventists that one should follow kosher laws or not?
  13. Some believe that we still have spiritual gifts like prophecy amongst us (Pentecostals) or not (Presbyterians)
  14. Some agree with being "slain in the spirit" (Pentecostalism) or not (Presbyterianism, Lutheranism etc)
  15. Some say that Regeneration comes through Baptism (Lutheranism) or not (Baptists)
  16. Some say that grace can be resisted (Pentecostalism, Lutheranism, Methodism) or not (Calvinism)
  17. Some say that baptism is three-fold (Mennonites) or not?
  18. Some say that there is no free will (Calvinism) or that man has free will (Mennonites)
  19. Some say that it is faith + works (Mennonites: Menno Simons told the followers of Luther and Calvin: “If you wish to be saved, you must walk in the way of the Lord, hear His Word, and obey it. For nothing avails in heaven nor on earth unto salvation, … not even Christ with His grace, merit, blood, and death, if we are not born of God, … if we do not believe His Word sincerely, and if we do not walk in the light and do right. As John says: …>If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie.’” (Complete Writings of Menno Simons, p. 208)) or not?
  20. Some say that there is imputed righteousness (Calvinism) or not (Mennonites)

533 posted on 05/16/2011 7:20:11 AM PDT by Cronos (Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
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To: Cronos
Preferring to distinguish protestant groups is nice but ignores the issue of their historical anti-Catholic behavior in this nation. Would you excuse their historical anti-Catholic behavior based on their theology or their historical activities. Which standard more clearly demonstrates their hatred of Catholicism, theology or historical activity?

When Members of the KKK greeted Al Smith in Oklahoma during the 1928 presidential election did these hooded individuals discuss theology while waiting for Gov Smith to arrive?

The history of this nation is rife with protestant bigotry against Catholics and to camouflage or airbrush these historical events is tantamount to joining forces with those who are intolerant. To segregate these protestant groups is amusing since these protestant were the masters of segregation especially in the south.

Bible Protestant Belt hypocrites are not the friends of Catholics and to interject theology is comical. Look at their historical record of religious hatred and how they post on these threads and then reconsider your position.

535 posted on 05/16/2011 7:38:46 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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