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To: Natural Law

ORLY?

The Council of Toulouse placed the Bible on the Index of Forbidden Books in 1229

Why would the Roman Catholic church not want people to read the Bible ? Oh wait we already know what happened when they did -—> The Reformation


505 posted on 05/15/2011 10:24:07 PM PDT by Lera
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To: Lera; Natural Law
your lack of history is incredible.

First you had displayed utter lack of knowledge of American history, then European history, and biblical verses and now lack of knowledge on Christian history.

There are just too many folks who are blindly following their hate driven pastors.

Let's rip your statement to the shreds it deserves

  1. The Index of Forbidden books was established in 1559 not 1229

507 posted on 05/16/2011 1:30:34 AM PDT by Cronos (Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
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To: Natural Law
it's incredible how little Biblical or historical knowledge our detractors have

their lack of history is incredible.

In the past I've had to explain to them about American history and biblical verses and now they boldly display their utter lack of knowledge on Christian history.

There are just too many folks who are blindly following their hate driven pastors.

It's so easy to rip their statements to the shreds it deserves

  1. Firstly, the Index of Forbidden books was established in 1559 not 1229
  2. The Council of Toulouse in 1229 was against Gnostics (who believed the God of the OT was a fake god or a demiurge)
  3. This Council forbade reading of distorted bibles -- just like your pastor now may say not to read the New World Translation of the Bible made by the Jehovah's Witnesses

    note == this was not an ecumenical council but one to handle a local problem and no, it did not add even the mis-translated bibles to the "Index of Forbidden Books" primarily because that Index did not even exist yet


508 posted on 05/16/2011 1:42:41 AM PDT by Cronos (Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
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To: Lera
"The Council of Toulouse placed the Bible on the Index of Forbidden Books in 1229"

Get real! If you are going to put the "Index of Forbidden Books" into evidence then do it properly and put the entire Index into evidence, not some half baked conclusion dreamed up by the propaganda ministry of the reformation. Presenting a carefully edited version of the truth is the same thing as lying.

The Index Librorum Prohibitorum ("List of Prohibited Books") was not published until 1559, 320 years AFTER you claim.

The Protestant tales of the "Great Catholic Bible banning of 1229" has changed over they years and is in reality nothing more than a laughable urban legend. It was first supposedly issued from a Council of Valencia until someone pointed out that in 1229 Valencia was still a Muslim city. Then the Council of Toulouse was dragged through the mud.

The Council of Toulouse did ban the possession of vernacular Bibles for the laity without a license; not because the Church wished to discourage the authentic study of Scripture, but because the vernacular Bibles were being used as a tool for the promotion of the Albigensian heresy.

552 posted on 05/16/2011 9:29:33 AM PDT by Natural Law
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