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To: Natural Law

And what excuse would you give for the slaughter of the Huguenots ?

What did the Pope do about it ?

He celebrated just like the Palestinians did after 911
(there is a pattern here)

Can’t even hide the fact that he certainly did as he even commemorated their slaughter in a painting and a coin

points -——> at the dead Protestant Frenchmen commemorated on the back of the coin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gregory_XIII_medal.jpg

so tell me again about how it’s just about getting back seized property ... yea some ones property was taken alright along with their lives and there is a coin to prove it.


500 posted on 05/15/2011 9:49:32 PM PDT by Lera
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To: Lera; Natural Law
"the slaughter of the Huguenots ?"

let's trace the Huguenots, shall we. In france, under Francis I, France was tolerant of all religious views

however, what did the Huguenots do? In the affair of the placards they posted placards all over Paris and even on the bedchamber door of the king (a security breach that angered him and made him change his tolerance position) -- these placards were attacks on Catholics.

So, instead of discussing, the Huguenots went to attack the Catholic majority who until then were content to let them live and debate and discuss and debate. Incidently, until this time the Huguenots were increasing, like the Moslems in Bradford, but then they started to get shrill and wake people up with their attacks

This polemic was an attack and the Huguenots started this retaliation.This was in 1534

Next, came the French wars of religion in which the Huguenots conspired against the King. This, added to the previous attack meant that they now publically came to attack the conservative forces. The progressives of the Huguenots were the precursors of the Revolutionaires

The people who became Huguenots were primarily the urban elite, like our present-day New Yorkers who take a fad and they saw that this was a means to oppose the King, so Huguenotism became a political tool

A group of Huguenots tried to kidnap the Prince Francis II when his father died -- causing more antagonism.

Huguenots in 1560 attacked Catholic Churchs and destroyed properties in Rouen and La Rochelle -- thus the FIRST salvo was lobbed by the Huguenots. -- the Catholics retailiated with mobs at seeing their places of worship attacked and defiled by Huguenots

Next, in 1562-70, we have the wars -- now political-religious, so no, it was not a simple case of "persecution" --> The Huguenots were one side of a civil war, which they lost

Now, let's come to the juicy part, the St. Bart's day massacre -- this occured in 1572, 40 years after the first provocations by the Huguenots and 12 years after they started destroying Catholic Churchs (just like the Moslems in America they were quiet until their numbers grew)

now, King Charles XI was openly in favor of the Huguenots -- so a political moment. Hence the attacks on the opposing side

So, let's see in conclusion -- Huguenots first start their provocations in 1534, then in 1560 start attacking Catholic Churchs (with no provocation), then start their political support against the conservatives and start a civil war. After 12 years their side loses the civil war and yet they are still allowed to live and practise their faith (note this is the 1500s, not a nice time, yet they get this tolerance) -- but they still play political intrigues. So, one faction starts to attack and massacre the other faction

so, stop the entire "poor persecuted Huguenots" -- they brought it on themselves.

509 posted on 05/16/2011 1:46:06 AM PDT by Cronos (Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
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To: Lera; Natural Law
As shown above (and you can check the facts for yourself), the Huguenots were the one who bit the hand that fed them, then launched the first attacks, started a civil war and then lost

They were like the Moslems in present day France -- slowly starting, making nice noises, but then attacking Christian churchs and finally starting a civil war.

They lost, tough luck --- the losers in the 1500s were not given much graces, yet they were allowed to stay with the same acts of tolerance AFTER losing politically. Yet they continued supporting political intrigues and there was a political massacre.

The Huguenots were on the losing side, so they got killed like the Catholics in England or in Scandanavia.

It was the 1500s, a pretty barbaric time

The mass killings of the Huguenots were done at the hands of rioters in a pogrom after it was learned that the Huguenots were conspiring with the English to stage a coup and facilitate an invasion. It is never healthy to conspire against a sitting king. After this, one branch became the persecutors in South Africa, another branch, many would have joined the KKK (I'm not implying all by any means, but many)

Do read the history, thanks

510 posted on 05/16/2011 1:46:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
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To: Lera
"And what excuse would you give for the slaughter of the Huguenots ?"

Your grasp of historical fact is dreadful. The Huguenots were involved in a war with the crown and suffered because they were a threat to that crown. In the process of this civil war the Huguenots sought the aid and alliance of both the English and the Ottoman Turks who were simultaneously invading Christian Europe from the east. The Huguenots were covetous of the riches their German and English neighbors has stolen from the Church and were trying to foment the conditions that would allow them to seize them. Protestantism was only their excuse, it had nothing to do with religious freedom which they were already enjoying.

"What did the Pope do about it ?"

He wept when he heard the details, but did recognize the even as another significant defeat for the same dark forces defeated at Lepanto a year earlier.

551 posted on 05/16/2011 9:14:03 AM PDT by Natural Law
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