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To: count-your-change
If it such a tiny fraction of offenders why does the Belgian church need “reform” by Benedict?

Because it's a detailed fault that if not cleaned out will rot the core. The majority of Belgian priests are good and not these scum. However the seminaries in many cases are riddled with liberal teachers, kind of like what we have with university profs in secular universities in the US.

Reform is something the Church does internally ever so often -- the last before Luther was done by St. Francis and his Franciscan monks.

The Jesuits were also a burning force to clear out the human corruption as God does not fail His Church but clears it from within as was done earlier in Judaic times in Josiah.

Or is that Pope Martin Luther Benedict being spoken of? -- strangely enough, if the Pope at Luther's time had been like the Pope at St. Francis' time and cleared out the secular corruption that Luther initially spoke of, we may well have had the young Luther before his later ideas which I think were wrong as Pope.

If you read Luther's career, a lot of his later actions were moved one after the other and my own personal opinion is that he was carried along by forces and didn't like it -- hence his diatribes against Zwingli and other innovators. He realised the floodgates had been loosened by his own innocuous questions.

I, personally, as a Catholic, have a good opinion of Luther as he started out, and I do see him as later being used by political forces and by Calvinism beyond his control. His initial motives were good, unlike Calvin who really wanted revenge and Zwingli whose aim was personal gain.

11 posted on 04/15/2011 3:41:33 AM PDT by Cronos (Christian, redneck, rube and proud of it!)
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To: Cronos

Luther certainly wasn’t the only person demanding reform, reform driven by priestly corruption.
About 500 years earlier Peter Damian’s Book of Gomorrah provided rich detail of the corruption.

Popes issued orders and held councils but here we are 500 years (and two or three billion dollars) after Luther and what is the current Pope apologizing for? Priestly abuse, but this time it was the news media and Catholic insiders writing the story.

“Reform is something the Church does internally ever so often — the last before Luther was done by St. Francis and his Franciscan monks.”

Like the nation of Israel, it makes an attempt but how many attempts before “your house is abandoned to you”?


28 posted on 04/15/2011 12:53:01 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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