Main beliefs of Zoroastrianism

hinduwebsite ^ | 2009 | Jayaram V

[Cronos]

True. though the ties of Zoroastrianism to Christianity are closer -- the Jewish concept of hell and a Messiah began to be emphasized only post the Exile when they were freed by the Persian King Cyrus the Great who defeated the Babylonians. And the "fleshing" out of angels is more post this period (Zoroastrianism too has angels)

Also, the Magi who came to visit Jesus were Zoroastrian priests (Magi is a term for a priest of Mazda)

Finally, Christianity spread the most in the Persian Empire in the first 300 years after Christ due to the Assyrian Church of the East (which is now the Chaldean Catholic and Assryaisn Church of the East) -- this Church spread right from Ctesiphon (in modern day Iraq) right up to Mongolia (a mongol tribe, the Naimans were Nestorian Christians -- today the Naimans are part of the Kazakh federation and Sunni Moslems) and even the Uighurs (in China's Xinjiang province -- but they had a vast empire from the time of Christ right up until the Mongol Empire and then again until conquest by the Ming and now destruction by the communist Chinese) were Christian, Nestorian Christian until a few 100 years ago -- now they are all Sunni Moslem

[Cronos]

yes, the Christian belief in God and his angels is analogous to the Zoroastrian belief in Ahura Mazda and the Amesha Spentas hierarchy of lesser deities.

[Cronos]

thanks for that — what about the Ahmaddiyas? And Babism?

[Thane_Banquo]

Zoroastrians believe that every human has a role and responsibility in enhancing and marinating...

Alright, let's get marinating. I'll buy the steaks, you get the limes and garlic. Who's bringing the beers?

[spetznaz]

Very interesting. Thanks C.

[Cronos]

Alright, let's get marinating. I'll buy the steaks, you get the limes and garlic. Who's bringing the beers?

:)

I didn't notice that one!!! Funny :-P

[Cronos]

No worries -- I had posted this earlier this week about Zoroastrianism from Nowruz to nowruz as well

[SuziQ]

Thanks! I'd always wondered about the tenets of Zoroastrianism. I work with a man, who, on first being introduced, described himself as being PERSIAN, from Iran.

I haven't asked, but I know he isn't Muslim, because he doesn't like the Mullahs at all! I don't think he's Christian, because he said he celebrates Christmas, but only as a non-religious holiday. So, by process of elimination, if he's anything, he might be Zoroastrian. He's a very nice man, regardless, always gentlemanly, always polite.

[Cronos]

well, there are also many Iranis who hate Islam but don’t know where to go so don’t believe in anything. They don’t know completely about Zoroastrianism

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

It is an ongoing religion. Freddy Mercury (birth name: Farouk Bulsara) the lead singer of Queen was a Zoroastrian, as is his family which immigrated from Jordan to England and brought their faith with them.

[AU72]

I don't know anything about Ahmaddiyas but Babism was the Prophet known as the Bab (Gate) and foretold of ‘One who God will make manifest’. This was claimed by ‘Bahaullah’ (Glory of God) who founded Bahai 9 years after the Bab was martyred. Almost all the Babis became Bahais at the time and today there are no known Babis in Iran.

[Cronos]

ok, so Bahai’ superseeded Bab? Or are they the same?

[backwoods-engineer]

I never thought I'd see the day when I'd read a post on FR that promotes the idea that Christianity came from Zoroastrianism, and indeed adopted most of its tenets from Zoroastrianism.

If I want to read blasphemous stuff like that, I'd go to FireDogLake or Democrat Underground.

This has no place on a pro-Christian and pro-Jewish forum like FR.

[Cronos]

Do stop making up fantasies and actually read what I said. Did you read it? let me bold the parts that will enable you to understand

True. though the ties of Zoroastrianism to Christianity are closer -- the Jewish concept of hell and a Messiah began to be emphasized only post the Exile when they were freed by the Persian King Cyrus the Great who defeated the Babylonians. And the "fleshing" out of angels is more post this period (Zoroastrianism too has angels)

Also, the Magi who came to visit Jesus were Zoroastrian priests (Magi is a term for a priest of Mazda)

Finally, Christianity spread the most in the Persian Empire in the first 300 years after Christ due to the Assyrian Church of the East (which is now the Chaldean Catholic and Assryaisn Church of the East) -- this Church spread right from Ctesiphon (in modern day Iraq) right up to Mongolia (a mongol tribe, the Naimans were Nestorian Christians -- today the Naimans are part of the Kazakh federation and Sunni Moslems) and even the Uighurs (in China's Xinjiang province -- but they had a vast empire from the time of Christ right up until the Mongol Empire and then again until conquest by the Ming and now destruction by the communist Chinese) were Christian, Nestorian Christian until a few 100 years ago -- now they are all Sunni Moslem

Do you understand what "began to be emphasized" and "to be fleshed out" means?

By no means where these adopted from Zoroastrianism or even came from Zoroastrianism

[backwoods-engineer]

Yes, I understand completely. "Began to be emphasized" and "fleshed out" are academic-sounding dodges; they are comfortable, easy euphemisms for blasphemy.

You aren't the only one; that's why I also sent the message to "All".

[Cronos]

The Jews had angels, the prophecies of Isiahi etc. before the Exile, but these got emphasized post the Exile and most importantly the fulfilment of prophecies are fulfilling JEWISH prophecies what the Hebrew prophets revealed, , the coming of a savior is promised as early as Gen. 3:15 in the Bible. This was long before the birth of Zoroaster.

What do I mean by emphasized -- well simply that -- before the Exile, the Israelites were concentrating on keeping the law, following their kings, fighting invaders. Post the Exile there is more understanding of the earlier prophecies of the Messiah, of the nature of angels written about long ago, etc.

[Cronos]

Quite frankly, newbie, you don’t understand. Do read a little bit — I explained this in the post above

[Zionist Conspirator]

This is the first time I’ve ever heard that zoroastrianism taught polytheism or that man was basically born good—a strange belief for a dualistic religion.

[Cronos]

Well, Zoroastrianism initially derives from the Indo-European/ARyan religion which was polytheistic, so the holdover continued. However, it was dualistic by the time of the Achaemenids and post the Seleucid era was fractured with some becoming nearly monotheistic.

[Cronos]

Why is the concept of men being born good alien to the dualistic concept of competing gods? From what I understand in various branches of Zoroastrianism the idea is that man fights on the side of good (and is created by the good)