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To: presently no screen name
When you believe God's Word is The Final Authority - then you will hear Him for yourself and the fuzz of man-made teachings won't be a hindrance.

But that statement is YOUR man-made teaching. Whom should I believe? You, or the teaching authority of the Catholic Church?

Heh. You lose.

1,788 posted on 04/18/2011 10:08:14 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne
Whom should I believe? You, or the teaching authority of the Catholic Church?

Neither, so you lose. Believe God. "Let God be true, and every man a liar".
1,793 posted on 04/18/2011 10:49:34 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Judith Anne; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; HossB86; ...
WRONG!
WRONG!
WRONG!
&
WRONG
AGAIN!
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AS
GOD
HIMSELF
REPEATEDLY
DECLARED
AS
A
POINT OF AUTHORITY,
MANY DOZENS OF TIMES,
IN
!!!!!!!GOD'S!!!!!!!
HOLY
WORD:
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
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"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
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"IT IS WRITTEN!"
"IT IS WRITTEN!"
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Folks
who deliberately
IGNORE
GOD ALMIGHTY'S
EMPHASES
IN HIS OWN
HOLY WORD
DO SO
AT THEIR OWN
EXTREME PERIL.



Which part of
CHRIST--CREATOR GOD--HIMSELF
pointing to THE WRITTEN WORD
AS THE HIGHER AUTHORITY
THAN CREATOR GOD HIMSELF
STANDING THERE IN LIVING COLOR
IN JERUSALEM
do you NOT understand?



1,808 posted on 04/19/2011 5:42:01 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Judith Anne; presently no screen name
The thing is Judith, pnsm won't even tell us what he believes in

you can ask him do you believe in

  1. believe in something as basic as Jesus was always God (Trinitarian position) or that Jesus Christ was man made God (Oneness PENTECOSTAL Protestant position) or the Angel Michael (Seventh Day Adventist Ellen G White teaching)?
  2. believe that one MUST talk in tongues (Oneness Pentecostal) to display faith or not?
  3. believe that God pre-damns people to hell or not?
  4. believe that Jesus came only for the salvation of a few or was He Savior of the world?
  5. believe in soul sleep or not?
  6. agree or disagree with worshipping on a Sunday or not?
  7. believe that we still have spiritual gifts like prophecy amongst us or not?
  8. believe that grace can be resisted or not?
  9. believe in imputed righteousness or not?
  10. Does your group believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

  11. Does your group believe in ONE Lord Jesus Christ, The Only Son of God, Eternally Begotten of the Father, begotten, not made, ONE in being with the Father, through whom all things was made
  12. Does your group believe that Jesus Christ, God the Son became incarnate in the person of Jesus of Nazareth, was born of a virgin through the Holy Spirit. That God truly became human in Jesus Christ.

    Does your group believe as we Christians do, that Jesus Christ was fully man and fully God or doesn't your group believe that He was a spirit or ghost
  13. Does your group believe that Jesus Christ, God the Son was crucified, DIED and was buried. Does your group believe that or does your group believe that Jesus was not crucified or died, but was spirited away?
  14. Does your group believe that for our sake Jesus Christ our Lord, God and Savior rose again in fulfilment of the scritpures?
  15. Does your group believe that Jesus Christ, God the Son was crucified, DIED and was buried. And on the third day He rose again, ascended into heaven?
  16. Does your group believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life?
and you won't get any answer.
2,135 posted on 04/20/2011 12:35:11 AM PDT by Cronos (Christian, redneck, rube and proud of it!)
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To: Judith Anne; Notwithstanding
What is also interesting, Judith, as you pointed out is that each of these groups has its own tradition and it's own arbitrator who decides what is the right interpretation or not.

and they don't agree on the fundamentals (Trinity or Unitarian, True Presence or not, Double predestination or not, Miracles happen today or not,)either!

They can't agree on any of the points above, and will say THEIR version, THEIR interpretation is correct as opposed to others. This breaks down to utter chaos and sects of one (as in pnms's case) -- as Notwithstanding would say they belong to self-sects!

2,136 posted on 04/20/2011 12:39:26 AM PDT by Cronos (Christian, redneck, rube and proud of it!)
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