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To: roamer_1; Notwithstanding

The main problem with the OPC/PCA point of view is that according to them, God’s not satisfied with damning a person before the beginning of creation, but after the person is dead, he’d have to resurrect him and tell him, “I’m going to punish you in hell forever because you perfectly—though you had no choice—followed the plan I set out for you since before the beginning of the world, all for my good pleasure and greater glory.” That’s just perverse piling on. And again we have to ask, “Glory before whom?” If all is created by God and determined by God, then there is no other “who” before whom glory, to whatever degree, is to be manifest and no context within which glory would even have any meaning. The whole thing is nothing more than an audience of one, the sound of that one’s hands clapping. Even Zen makes more sense than that.


1,484 posted on 04/18/2011 4:14:58 AM PDT by Cronos (Christian, redneck, rube and proud of it!)
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To: Cronos

The very “sound of that one’s hands clapping” (emanating from the chambers of Quix and metmom and others here at FR) led me to ask them why they appear to favor self-sects when they have probably experienced other more fulfilling sects.


1,486 posted on 04/18/2011 4:32:53 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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