Apparitions Exposed!

Proclaiming the Gospel ^ | former Director for a "Mary, Queen of Peace Center."

[Quix]

Sooooooooo

IN PRACTICE . . .

how MUCH DISTANCE, DIFFERENCE

is there

FUNCTIONALLY,

day to day

between

REQUIRED

and

FULL COURT PRESS RELENTLESSLY (in a thousand ways) ENCOURAGED?

[knarf]

You're all missing my point.I was born in '48 and all through the 50's and 60's I had no explanation of anything ... and chances are ... neither did you.

We all did what we were told.

No one I knew ever wanted to comprehend the theological aspects of anything ... we did what we were told to do/memorize.

NOW we're adults ... NOW we research and analyze ... not then

The first indoctrination was be a Catholic ... not a Christian.

Fact is ... I never heard Catholics refered to as Christian until relatively recently ... maybe the last 20 years or so.

[Quix]

I’m sure many of your RC cohorts would agree with you.

[lastchance]

If I have cohorts I demand a lair. A lair with minions if you please.

[lastchance]

How do you get a whole section like that to link?

[Carpe Cerevisi]

You're all missing my point.I was born in '48 and all through the 50's and 60's I had no explanation of anything ... and chances are ... neither did you.

No, I'm not missing anything. I'm simply try to charitably point out your errors. I am a convert and came into the Catholic church thirteen years ago yesterday; unfortunately instruction of the faith has been has been regretfully less than stellar the last 40 years or so, if not longer.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Should I call you brother ... or cousin ?

After all .. we ARE related through Adam and Eve ... right?

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think Campion believes in Adam and Eve. I apologize if I'm mistaken here.

Campion?

[knarf]

" .. unfortunately instruction of the faith has been has been regretfully less than stellar the last 40 years or so, if not longer."

Perhaps because there was a willing congregation uninterested in what may be true or not, and lived blindly because "that's the way it's always been"

I DID question authority.

I DID turn on, tune in and drop out.

I DID survive and I found salvation in Jesus alone by grace, through faith without doing ANYthing except asking Him to save me.

My prayer for salvation was hardly eloquent, but it was sincere .. not because I had been taught or indoctrinated, rather ... because all teaching and indoctrination had failed me.

Lord have mercy on me ... a sinner.

[Zionist Conspirator]

If I have cohorts I demand a lair. A lair with minions if you please.

Minions are good, but minyans are better!

[JSDude1]

Recently, a person whom I love dearly, and who has a “Marian devotion” asked me, “Why are you bothering the people who are already good people instead of worrying about those who are lost?” The answer came to me the other evening as the Lord continues to guide me through His sacred Word. Saint Paul wrote that “Satan masquerades as an angel of light” (2 Corinthians 11:14). We know the mother of Jesus would never oppose her Son, and since the apparitions do just that, they could very well be Satan masquerading as Mary. Saint Paul also wrote, “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them . . . everything exposed by the light becomes visible” (Ephesians 5:11-14). Therefore, I feel called to expose these attempts by the evil one to divert people’s devotion away from Jesus. The most authoritative way to do this is with the light of God’s Holy Word. My new test for truthfulness is — if it does not agree with the Scriptures then it must be rejected.

WHAT A GOOD ASSESSMENT.

[Quix]

LOL

[Quix]

Please educate me on the diff.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “Are you now the Religion Moderator?” <<

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Heaven forbid!

I have to commend the RM for his patience in running heard over this pack of whiney papists.

[lastchance]

Yes. One would think dealing with the know nothing party would take up all of his time.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Please educate me on the diff.

Um . . . what "diff?"

Are you referring to my pun on "minions" and "minyans?" Surely you got that one.

"Minions" are a villain's henchmen (watch more cartoons, Quix!). A minyan is a prayer quorum of ten circumsized Jews before public worship, Torah reading, etc., can take place.

[Rashputin]

What a perfect example of someone applying "The Lego Block Method of Interpretation" where they take whatever verse or group of words they please out of context and string them together with whatever else suits their preconception at the moment.

It's gotten very, very, clear to me how wise those who put the CCC together were and why it goes into such great detail on everything leading up to each point. It has to in order to counteract the tens of thousands of errant interpretations people spin out each and every day to suit themselves.

Twenty seconds in any search engine shows what Church dogma is, including the FACT that the Church teaches the sacrifice of Christ is complete, sufficient, and that no one can add to it. We, as Mary did, can cooperate with Christ, but we cannot add to anything He does nor can we in any way obtain salvation other than through Christ alone.

CCC 454

The title "Son of God" signifies the unique and eternal relationship of Jesus Christ to God his Father: he is the only Son of the father (Jn 1:14,18; 3:16, 18); he is God himself (Jn 1:1) To be a Christian, one must believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

CCC 455

The Title "Lord" indicates divine sovereignty. To confess or invoke Jesus as Lord is to believe in his divinity. "No one can say 'Jesus is Lord' except by the Holy Spirit".(I Cor 12:3)

CCC 618

The cross is the unique sacrifice of Christ, the "one mediator between God and men."(I Tim 2:5) ...

Obviously, those who are deliberately trying to keep others from recognizing His One True Church will apply their usual technique of taking things out of context or pretending that anything not explained in a single sentence is an error.

Anyone who is honestly interested can read the CCC with their Bible handy to keep up with the thousands of Scripture references it makes and see the truth. That truth is that the Catholic teaches the same three things that the Protestant evangelicals claim make for a Christian Church, Salvation by Grace alone, through Faith alone, in Christ alone. The only difference is that the Catholic Church believes the WHOLE Scripture and recognizes that Faith without works is dead, dead, dead, and dead. What meager bits of effort Protestants like to scream and wave their "works salvation" banner over pale by comparison to the work of actually taking the first step and accepting that Christ is the Lord. If taking that step is not work, than nothing the Church teaches is a work either.

[Antoninus]

Until recently I was serving as Director of Public Relations for the Queen of Peace Center in Dallas, Texas. This non-profit organization disseminates information and messages from Marian apparitions in Medjugorje and around the world.

The Church has never endorsed the so-called apparitions at Medjugorje. Most Catholics I know consider them to be fraudulent. That said, there is nothing in Scripture that demands that all such apparitions need be fraudulent. Christians have been having visions of Christ since St. Paul and apparitions of the Blessed Virgin go back a long ways as well.

It seems to me that to deny outright that such things could happen puts a limit on the power of God.

[Rashputin]

"That’s the damning belief of millions."

NO PROBLEM !!! I bought a hankie a pentacoastal intercessor prayed and wept over so it'll be just fine.

[PetroniusMaximus]

“What a perfect example of someone applying “The Lego Block Method of Interpretation””

Friend, what YOU'VE got is a “Lego Block Theology”.

Regarding: “CCC 618 The cross is the unique sacrifice of Christ, the “one mediator between God and men.”(I Tim 2:5) ...”

See...

8. The power thus put into her hands is all but unlimited. How unerringly right, then, are Christian souls when they turn to Mary for help as though impelled by an instinct of nature, confidently sharing with her their future hopes and past achievements, their sorrows and joys, commending themselves like children to the care of a bountiful mother. How rightly, too, has every nation and every liturgy without exception acclaimed her great renown, which has grown greater with the voice of each succeeding century. Among her many other titles we find her hailed as “our Lady, our Mediatrix,”[3] “the Reparatrix of the whole world,”[4] “the Dispenser of all heavenly gifts.”[5]

Source: ADIUTRICEM (On the Rosary), Encyclical of Pope Leo XIII, promulgated on September 5, 1895.

[Quix]

Figured it had to be something along those lines.

Just not that up on such details.

Thx.

BTW, I didn’t realize there had to be such a quorum. I hope they don’t have to inspect the circumcision every time!