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To: WPaCon; Dr. Eckleburg; metmom; Gamecock
“The Roman Catholic “Church” doesn’t make the definitions — GOD DOES.”

Through the Church.

And this, in a nutshell, is the proof of the apostasy: a group of fallible, sinful humans CLAIM that they (The Roman Catholic Church) in some way -- in any way -- have ANY say in the standards set by Almighty God.

Here's a newsflash: God is SOVEREIGN. He and He alone has set the standard; He and He alone determines those who are saved. Man has NOTHING to say about it.

As to why I put "Church" in quotations? To differentiate The True Church (all those called and regenerated) from the Roman Catholic Church that makes the claim of one true church. A false claim at best.

Does the Roman Catholic "Church" teach that Christ alone is the one mediator between God and man? Be careful: it's been posted here before... but, just to be accurate, allow me to quote from the Roman Catholic Church's catechism:

969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfilment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation .... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."

Where, in scripture, does it state that Mary was "taken" into Heaven?

Where, in scripture, does it state that Mary provides "intercession"?

Where, in scripture, does it state that Mary is an "Advocate," "Helper," "Benefactress," or "Mediatrix?"

And that last one is the kicker -- Mediatrix? Really? Where in scripture did God say this? So.....

If it's being taught in the "Church," and it's a different gospel (and ascribing to ANYONE other than Christ the title of mediator and intercessor is a different gospel than that taught in God's word), then, it's heresy.

This was taken from the Roman Catholic "Church"'s own catechism -- from the Vatican website -- and, as such is constituted as being taught by the Roman Catholic "Church" -- so, the "Church" IS teaching heresy.

No amount of saying, "no it doesn't" will change the cold, hard FACT that the Roman Catholic "Church" is a false church -- apostate and heretical.

Hoss

614 posted on 03/27/2011 7:08:04 PM PDT by HossB86 ( NOBODY admits to being a Calvinist unless they are one. I AM ONE.)
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To: HossB86

“And this, in a nutshell, is the proof of the apostasy: a group of fallible, sinful humans CLAIM that they (The Roman Catholic Church) in some way — in any way — have ANY say in the standards set by Almighty God.”

Using that logic, we can’t trust the Bible, because it was written by sinful, fallible humans.

“Here’s a newsflash: God is SOVEREIGN. He and He alone has set the standard; He and He alone determines those who are saved. Man has NOTHING to say about it.”

I don’t know why that’s a newsflash. Who disagrees with that?

“As to why I put “Church” in quotations? To differentiate The True Church (all those called and regenerated) from the Roman Catholic Church that makes the claim of one true church. A false claim at best.”

Your idea of “The True Church” is a manmade invention.

“Where, in scripture, does it state that Mary was “taken” into Heaven?

Where, in scripture, does it state that Mary provides “intercession”?

Where, in scripture, does it state that Mary is an “Advocate,” “Helper,” “Benefactress,” or “Mediatrix?”

And that last one is the kicker — Mediatrix? Really? Where in scripture did God say this? So..... “

You’re acting like Sola Scriptura isn’t some man made heretical invention when you demand for things to be in scripture.

“No amount of saying, “no it doesn’t” will change the cold, hard FACT that the Roman Catholic “Church” is a false church — apostate and heretical.”

You’re opinions are cold, hard facts?


650 posted on 03/27/2011 7:50:34 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: HossB86
Great post. So much of their catechism is fiction.

RCs follow "another Christ" and pray to a "co-redeemer" and other "mediators" and presume their own good works must be added to the justification Christ has incompletely won for them on the cross.

Thank God we "have not so learned Christ" (Ephesians 4:20.)

706 posted on 03/27/2011 9:14:15 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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