Posted on 03/25/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by Colofornian
Written by a local ex-Mormon Christian friend of mine:
This is the Christ of Mormonism:
1. He lives as a humanoid god on a star near Kolob along with his father god, bound by the physical world; he does not transcend the material.
2. He is the brother of satan.
3. He had to earn his own salvation while he was on earth.
4. He offers his grace only to those who work hard enough.
5. He is not from everlasting to everlasting, but was created a finite time ago by his father god, who in turn was also created by his own father god, who in turn was created by his own father god, so on and so forth
6. He is not the greatest being possible.
7. He is finite.
8. His blood is not powerful enough to wipe away any sin.
9. He aided his father in creating earth by organizing already existing matter; he is not capable of creating things out of nothing.
10. He must submit to a moral law that existed before he did.
11. You can one day become just like him.
This is the Christ of the Bible:
1. He is a spirit being that transcends space and time.
2. He is the brother of no creature; He is God, from everlasting to everlasting. No one can claim kinship with Him except those He purchased for Himself on the cross. And He is not the same type of creature they are. He is not a creature, He is God.
3. Jesus is the Author of Salvation; to say that He needed to earn His salvation is absurdity.
4. He offers His sovereign grace to whomever He sovereignly chooses; we are all tainted by sin and vile in His holy eyes. Therefore, no one is more worthy than any other human being. Thus, His grace that He offers is given unconditionally. His grace is true grace, a beautiful gift.
5. He is from everlasting to everlasting. He was never created, and Has been in relationship with the Father and the Holy Spirit forever.
6. He is the greatest being possible, the Most High God. There is no one like Him and there is no one who will ever be anything like Him.
7. He is infinite, both in essence and in His divine perfections.
8. His blood is powerful enough to wipe away any sin, regardless of heinousness and duration. The only sin that cannot be forgive is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; and this is not because the blood of Christ is not powerful enough to wash it away, but because God has so sovereignly decreed that all persons who blaspheme the Holy Ghost should not receive forgiveness.
9. He created everything that exists out of nothing by the mere word of His mouth.
10. There is no external law that He submits to; He is the Author and the Source of the Law.
11. No one can ever come near to obtaining the glory and excellency of Christ.
How lame!
Haven't you heard of the GODly 'us'?
You right!
It COULD be!!
But what IS it?
Why all the disclaimers found in them?
Why would ANYONE; after looking thru your List-o-Links® decide to REMAIN a MORMON; let alone BECOME one?
For which of these do you stone me?
SPIT!
...because you claim to be GOD.
Well; since Smith was a False Prophet (even though some rank him up along the Messiah) and since he DID make some un-fulfilled prophecies, MORMONs who do NOT know "The REST of the Story" are in really precarious shape then!
‘xactly..
Do you even read what people post to you?
I have had experience with lds since 1962. I have information from my lds family which includes a bishop (interesting they have no problem answering questions about the oddity of lds beliefs).
I have told you I have read your links.
What part of all this do you not get?
God has told me to flee, lds is not His church.
What part of all this do you not get?
Oh I get it just fine. It’s you that does not. God wants you to listen to what he wants, not what you want.
Have a great Sunday!
He did, we all did, that is why we are not LDS.
God plays no games and has no peers.
Apparently not because God has said plainly and clearly that lds is not His church.
Even in 1962 when I was a kid, I could hear God’s voice clearly.
I lived with my lds uncle and aunt for a time, I went to lds services (where by the way never heard the name of Jesus spoken in the sermons/talks).
As I grew, I tried desperately to please my uncle now the bishop, still I heard God say flee, this lds is not My church.
I saw the destruction of the ridged rules and what it was doing to families who might have made a mistake - denial of the recommendations, ridicule for not tithing enough.
My tipping point to lead me to pure loathing of mormonISM was when my cousin’s husband was disapproving of something she did and dragged her into see some bishop or regional person (my cousin and husband were both employees of SLC temple workings) and her husband and this other guy berated her and called her “unworthy, unworthy”. She was ridiculed by them as unworthy and everyone they worked with and went to ward with knew it. Her friends stopped seeing her, she was shunned at ward.
One month later she took her own life.
So do not ever tell me “I don’t get it” I do.
What was her crime of unworthiness, she tried to restore her relationship with her father (my uncle) after a falling out that was encouraged by the then bishop of her ward.
For trying to restore the relation ship with her father, mormonISM killed her.
I get it.
When my aunt lay in the hospital for nearly five months, not one time did anyone from their ward offer to care for the four young kids (my cousins), only one time did anyone bring food - a pizza for Thanksgiving. There were no offers from lds (the ward, the region or anywhere) to help them with medical costs.
They lost everything paying for medical bills, their home, their investments, their retirement, everything - not one word or offer of help.
You may wonder why didn’t I help as my cousins are so much younger than myself. I would have if I had known. You see once I told my aunt and uncle that I could not participate in lds, they turned their backs on me. I did not hear from them for about five years, when my uncle wrote me a letter telling me my grandmother had died.
I have seen my aunt only once in twenty years. I sent a note to them asking if she wanted to see my first granddaughter. She came over for about twenty minutes and then left.
I see my uncle now about every two years.
I have a cousin who when she was about twenty felt she was a homosexual. Very active in lds. One Sunday she was rebuked from the front during a talk/sermon and asked to leave the ward.
So PD don’t tell me I don’t get it.
I understand lds, I know lds and I also know that what you see lds doing all happy and helpful on the outside is a lie compared to who they really are.
In the words of my cousin, he says “they are perfect on the outside and vile rotten to the core on the inside. All they care about is their image and money”.
1....just as G-d plainly says
You and colofornian would make good mormons. You defend your heresies with rambling thought not rooted in the scripture.
Your comments have all been on point and appreciated...magritte
Thanks magitte...
Typical mormon - desires mormonism to be true more than desiring the truth.
The same heresy of the mormon. You both put Jesus (a man) into the godhead. That is heretical.
Making a man-god hybrid your lord and savior. G-d says:
Isaiah 43:10-11 You are My witnesses, declares the Lord, and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me no god was formed, nor will there be one after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.
NO OTHER SAVIOR
Isaiah 40:25 To whom then will you liken Me, that I should be his equal? says the Holy One.
You are making a man-god hybrid G-ds equal...heretical!
Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord, that is My name, and My glory will I not give to another..
You give glory to a man-god hybrid.....heretical!
Isaiah 44:8 Is there any God besides Me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.
You claim jesus is the rock....heretical! If jesus was a Rock like G-d...G-d would have told us, He would said... I have another with me, he is my son, i am he and he is me..G-d NEVER SAYS THIS or anything remotely like it.
Isaiah 46:5 To whom shall you liken Me and make Me equal and compare Me that we may be alike?
G-d says no one!...You say Jesus!
Hosea 13:4 I am the Lord your God, Who brought you out of Egypt. You shall acknowledge no god but Me, no savior except Me!
No G-d but Me...no Savior except Me....You guys insist on defying G-d and shoe-horning a man-god as savior! Heretical!
Isaiah 44:24 Thus said the Lord, your Redeemer, the One who formed you from the womb, I am the Lord Who makes everything, Who stretched forth the heavens alone, Who spread out the earth by Myself.
"I" strecthed forth the heavens...ALONE...MYSELF! You insist on making a man-god hybrid creator! Heretical!
G-d NEVER once says.....I am G-d....I am three-in-one....I have a son and he is me and I am him. I also have a holy spirit that is me and I am him...etc. By you ignoring and willingly putting a god-man hybrid as god, you are being heretics!
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